06/11/2017 at 19:00 #75750
About a year ago I made a list of all the wargame miniature manufacturers that I can recall having bought from. It turned out to be an even 100, far more than I had expected. With new purchases since then, I’m at 103, and there’s probably a couple more that I can’t recall. This is still excluding manufacturers of other hobby products (terrain, paints, modelling materials, tools, gaming aids, rulesets, magazines, reference books, modelling/painting books, etc) I’ve bought from, as well as manufacturers whose miniatures I own though I haven’t bought from them directly (meaning I got the miniatures second-hand or through a third-party retailer or distributor). Also, if it needs saying, I’ve bought from many of the manufacturers on the list more than once, so I would guesstimate the total number of purchase occasions comes to around 200. This is over approximately 18 years in this hobby, the first five of which I was exclusively buying GW products.
Am I normal?
That is to say, how many manufacturers would you estimate you’ve bought from?06/11/2017 at 19:02 #75751
MikeKeymaster06/11/2017 at 19:20 #75752
…Aaand shorty after posting I’ve realised that my question is rather coloured by the fact that I live in a part of the world where FLGSs that sell anything other than GW and PP product are as rare as hens’ teeth. The great majority of miniature purchases I’ve made have been internet orders straight from the manufacturer, and that’s the natural way of purchasing for me, but this might not reflect the reality of other hobbyists in places like the UK.
Feel free to answer my question as if I’d asked “How many manufacturers’ miniatures have you bought?” instead, regardless of where you bought them from. In that case, I guess my list might come up to around 110.06/11/2017 at 20:12 #75755
I probably have a dozen or so I’ve kept going back to over the years, maybe add another 30 I’ve bought from once or twice if they do a range that catches my imagination. The main ones I buy from go back to before I had internet and I was ordering based on adverts in wargame magazines and sending away for their catalogues. I mostly order from UK companies, though there are a few US companies I’ve bought from (I would have bought from them more often if it wasn’t for getting hit with custom fees a couple of times).
Total number of orders I’ve ever made is too scary to consider, as is the amount of money I’ve spent over the last 30+ years.06/11/2017 at 21:23 #75759
Hmm, quick back of a fag packet calculation (I had time to think as I had to go and buy the fags because I don’t smoke) – 33.
If I really sat and dredged my memory I am sure there are more – the vast majority also bought ‘at a distance’ (in pre-internet days I would think). I used to use show trips as scouting expeditions . I would maybe buy a small unit’s worth of figures max. to paint up and see what they looked like, and then followed up with mail order if I liked them.
These days nearly all online.06/11/2017 at 21:42 #75760
I would be at around 15 I think and of those I have purchased the most from 15mm.co.uk\Ion Age\AA.06/11/2017 at 23:21 #75767
Over the last thirty years, I don’t think I will be able to cover them all.07/11/2017 at 05:35 #75780
Hmm, an interesting question. Lets see.
1 – Wargames Foundry
2 – Games Workshop
3 – The Assault Group
4 – Eureka Miniatures
5 – Gripping Beast
6 – Matakishis Tea House
7 – Wargames Supply Dump
8 – EM4
9 – CP Models
10 – Black Hat Miniatures
11 – 15mm.co.uk
12 – Rebel Miniatures
13 – Blue Moon Manufacturing
14 – QRF
15 – CP Models
16 – Studio Miniatures
17 – Zombiesmith
18 – West Wind
19 – Mantic
20 – Perry Miniatures
21 – Brittania Miniatures
22 – Grekwood Miniatures
23 – Wizards of the Coast (pre-painted)
24 – Fantasy Flight Games (X-Wing)
25 – West End Games (Star Wars, bought many, many years ago)
26 – The Ion Age
27 – Italeri
28 – Zvezda
That’s everything I can think of right now, although I am sure I am missing a few out.
Those are brave men knocking at our door. Let's go kill them!07/11/2017 at 07:09 #75783
I’d be surprised if it was many more than thirty. I’ll have to have a think.
"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" - Helmuth von Moltke07/11/2017 at 08:15 #75787
Having slept on it a few more popped up –
1. Angel Barracks
3. Heroics & Ros
6. Leicester Micro Models
9. Newline Designs
11. Wargames South
15. Peter Laing
17. Flames of War
18. Mike’s Models
20. Forged in Battle
21. Plastic Soldier Company
23. Lancashire Games
30. Front Rank
34. Alternative Armies
36. Gripping Beast
37. Wargames Foundry
40. Eagle Miniatures
Some no longer exist, and some I know have amalgamated into one company – I’ve listed them separately because they were independent producers when I bought them first.
Starting in 1972 that’s less than one manufacturer a year – what have I been doing?07/11/2017 at 09:05 #75792
So these are just figures as in people types, that I can think of , no terrain or accessories etc, could be a few more but I suspect not that many more..
1 Dark Realm
2 Brigade Models
3 Plasma Blast
9 Irregular Miniatures
10 Ral Partha
14 Copplestone Castings
15 Alternative Armies / Ion Age / 15mm.co.uk
16 Clear Horizon
17 GW/Citadel07/11/2017 at 11:56 #75802
Hmm, I was wrong. 40. Like Guy, that works out at less than one manufacturer per year.
I have a LOT of Airfix, H&R, Irregular, Peter Pig, HaT and PSC, and really very little of some others (precisely five figures from Newline for example).
D*mn, I forgot MJ Figures.
"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" - Helmuth von Moltke07/11/2017 at 12:29 #75804
That’s what I kept doing Martin.
Just as I finished scribbling, another one would pop into my head.
And I’ve decided that that’s it – enough thinking – my official total is 40.
41.07/11/2017 at 13:04 #75805
Well, the current number is 74, but yesterday, I was sure it was 62, and then 65. I didn’t include plastic kit manufacturers that don’t or didn’t target military gaming. Still, after 40 years, I would have thought it would be some what higher.07/11/2017 at 13:48 #75807
You heretics only two of you bought from Airfix.
Lots of different manufacturers, some of the above.
07/11/2017 at 13:51 #75809
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For me somewhere between 15 and 20 I suppose. If you include paints, assessories, scenery etc…then probably more like 25.07/11/2017 at 14:37 #75812
I knew there was a reason I inventoried all my hobby stuff! (Actually, it was because I was putting everything into storage a few years ago and wanted to know exactly which box things were in.) This is stuff that has been accumulated since the late 1970s. Comes out to 80 manufacturers but that includes 22 rules publishers. And a distinct lack of modern companies.
Active Service Press
Armies in Plastic
Battles for Empire Pub, 1990
Black Tree Design
Brian Stokes, 1987
Call to Arms
Classic Toy Soldier Co
Dodo Publications 1987
Emperor’s Press 1992
Epoxy Home Cast
George Duden 1993
H.G. Walls 1997
Judges Guild 1981
Nova Game Design
Perfect Captain 2003
Peter Berry 1991
Pioneer Simulations 1985
T. Kelly 1992
The Jogglers 1993
World Wide Wargames, 1980
Self taught, persistently behind the times, never up to date. AKA ~ jeff
More verbosity: http://petiteguerre.blogspot.com/07/11/2017 at 15:13 #75815
I have not done a list because I don’t think I could be accurate or complete. However I have always felt that any one time, I support a fairly narrow range of producers, but that’s not particularly true or accurate either – for 2017 to date I have made 13 figure producers happy.
http://commanders.simdif.com07/11/2017 at 15:13 #75816
As a quick ballpark figure, using the pretty exhaustive manufacturers lists above (!), I seem to easily top 50, quite surprising really……..until I glance out the window to the bulging at the seams portacabin gaming shed!!
"Even dry tree bark is not bitter to the hungry squirrel"07/11/2017 at 15:21 #75817
Not Connard SageParticipant
In 48 years? I need to have a think.
Be back in a week…
"I go online sometimes, but everyone's spelling is really bad. It's... depressing."07/11/2017 at 15:55 #75819
I feel your, not exactly pain, more a slight confusion and dull ache in the temples.
After c15 permanent(?) address changes, several periods out of the country, two burglaries, a storage warehouse fire and two marriages (not concurrent) I am not sure who I bought all the figures from (nor even what figures exactly are in all the boxes in the attic, never mind who manufactured them all!)
Did I mention a couple of serious concussions (great game rugby – recommend it to anyone) and falling off a motorbike- twice? I’m lucky I can remember who I am.07/11/2017 at 16:03 #75820
Who Asked This JokerParticipant
Over my lifetime…and this is not an exhaustive list.
Black Tree Designs
Early War Miniatures
Old Glory 15/25
I am certain there are others. 😉
"Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power."
--Abraham Lincoln07/11/2017 at 16:21 #75821
(Maybe more than 2 concussions?)
42.07/11/2017 at 17:08 #75822
Oh I see I mentioned CP Models twice. I was thinking on the way home from work and came up with the following which I left out (note I am numbering from 28 because of duplicating CP Models):
28 – HaT
29 – Airfix
30 – Khurasan
31 – Highlander Miniatures
I’m sure there are more, but I couldnt be bothered to go and check (its too bloody hot here right now to do anything).
Those are brave men knocking at our door. Let's go kill them!07/11/2017 at 19:15 #75830
Miniatures from: Naismith, Heritage, Minifigs, Essex, Peter Pig, Donnington, Magister Militum, Freikorps 15.
Buildings from: Hovels, Total Battle Miniatures.
Bases: East Riding Miniatures, Warbases.
Paints from: Foundry & Black Hat.
07/11/2017 at 19:55 #75832
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Totting up figure manufacturing companies I’d dealt with in person or through intermediaries over my 54 years of gaming I got to a total of 132 then stopped before I felt compelled to retire to the library with a glass of fine scotch, a pistol and one bullet as the only way to put an end to this obsession! 😀
To be fair the list includes the German “flats” manufacturer I bought my first lead figures from (a week before discovering a local shop selling Minifigs and abandoning flats forever!) and who’s name I have long since forgotten. It also includes both the US and European versions of some companies where I have bought from both (is that cheating?).
I’m beginning to wonder if it might be a shorter list if I just included those I HAVEN’T bought from. 😀
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is entirely optional!07/11/2017 at 19:59 #75833
Let us have a look: When I was a kid it was the following:
Airfix, Matchbox, Revell, ESCI, Italeri, Skytrex, Fujimi, Hasegawa.
PSC, Armorfast, Zvezda, Reaper Bones, Games Workshop, Perry Miniatures, AB, Britania, GZG, Brigade Models, Angel Barracks, CinC, Likto, EM4, Heroics and Ros.
I hope to soon make orders from Baccus, possibly Sayiner Micro Toys, Khurasan Miniatures.
Experiments here: http://inexperiencedmodelmaker.blogspot.co.uk/08/11/2017 at 09:27 #75845
That was an interesting 10 minutes of thinking (no doubt to be followed by many hours of self-recrimination for my failure to stay focussed ….).
Just over 30 (for human minis only) is my score, though many of these were for purchases of only a few minis. Perry has garnered most of my ‘traffic’, across a variety of projects.
In the last few years my purchases have been restricted to plastics, mostly Perry sprues, supplemented by Victrix and Warlord.
Much of the ‘so far unused’ lead should really be moved on but I suspect that I’m not alone in that ! Lol
NB: some duplications for scale
1. Airfix HO/OO (1970s)
2. Citadel(?) 25mm (1980s)
3. Peter Pig 15mm (1980s)
4. Bolt Action Minis 28mm ‘old metals’ (2000s)
5. Artizan Designs 28mm (2000s)
6. Perry 28mm (2000s/2010s)
7. Conquest Minis 28mm (2000s)
8. Essex Minis 25mm (2000s/2010s)
9. Crusader Minis 28mm (2000s)
10. Boot Hill Minis (2000s/2010s)
11. Ebob Minis 28mm (2000s/2010s)
12. Heresy 28mm (2000s)
13. Infinity 28mm (2000s)
14. Hasslefree 28mm (2000s/2010s)
15. Wargames Factory 28mm (2000s)
16. Games Workshop 28mm (2000s/2010s)
17. Conquest Games 28mm (2010s)
18. The Assault Group 28mm (2000s/2010s)
19. Steel Fist Minis (2010s)
20. Pro Gloria Minis (2010s)
21. MiniatureMojo 28mm (2010s)
22. Pendraken 15mm (2010s)
23. CP Models 15mm (2010s)
24. Brigade Models 15mm (2010s)
25. Great Escape Games 28mm (2010s)
26. Brigade Models 28mm (2010s)
27. Mutton Chop Minis 28mm (2010s)
28. Unfeasibly Minis 28mm (2010s)
29. Fife & Drum Minis 28mm (2010s)
30. Wargames Foundry 28mm (2010s)
31. Studio Miniatures 28mm (2010s)
32. Warlord Games 28mm (2010s)
33. Frostgrave Minis 28mm (2010s)
34. Perry 8mm (2010s)
35. Victrix Minis 28mm (2010s)
www.silentinvader.uk08/11/2017 at 15:05 #75858
Darkest Star GamesParticipant
Looks like I’ve bought from 68, off the top of my head (and only covers miniature gaming companies, not others like plastic model companies like Hobbyboss or Tamiya or Testors, etc), since 1984. Amazing how many have folded or sold their ranges, and how many new ones have popped up.
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"I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."08/11/2017 at 17:50 #75863
A Lot of GaulParticipant
During the past 40 years, I can recall purchasing miniatures from the following manufacturers:
- DragonTooth (25mm)
- RAFM (25mm)
- Ral Partha (25mm)
- Essex (15mm)
- Freikorps (15mm)
- Testudo (15/18mm)
- Xyston (15/18mm)
- Blue Moon (15/18mm)
I have thinned my lead pile as I have gone along, so currently I have figures only from Blue Moon and Xyston.
VENTOSA VIRI RESTABIT08/11/2017 at 20:32 #7586609/11/2017 at 04:06 #75884
These and probably more in the last 10 years, beyond that I’m not sure.
Black Cat Bases
Black Tree Design
Crooked Dice Miniatures
Four A Miniatures
Heroics and Ros
Plastic Soldier Co
Splintered Light Miniatures
Northstar Military Figures
Killer B Games
Beast in the Broch
"This lighthouse is under attack, and by morning we may all be dead!" The 4th Doctor - Horror of Fang Rock09/11/2017 at 12:04 #75903
I got 19 but I might have missed a few. The number has greatly increased in the few years since the games I play expanded from just those made by GW.11/11/2017 at 18:17 #76047
Dang, my list would be an awful lot shorter than some of you guys 🙂
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