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    Mr. Average
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    So I’ve been building this lovely Space Marine army with the new Vanguard offerings, and yet I still have a lot of the (also wonderful) National Cheese Emporium vehicles as well, which scale differently enough that they aren’t really compatible.  However, they DO have the advantage of working great on multi-unit bases, and as both Onslaught and Vanguard are working up Titan-like mechs, this is a perfect use for them: units for a 40K themed Horizon Wars set.

    The miniatures are already in progress – more on that later – but mostly I’m trying to think up corollaries between the HW conventional units and the Marine/IG armies.  With the Guard it’s fairly easy: Light Inf. = Guardsmen; Mobile Inf. = Guards in Chimeras; Special Forces = Infantry with Hellhounds (this might be too powerful?); Recon = Salamanders; Light Cav. = Tank Destroyers; Heavy Cav. = Leman Russ; Light Arty. = Medusas; Armored Arty. = Deathstrike Missiles.  It’s all representational so it’s really just a matter of visual appeal and trying to maintain the “flavor” of the forces.

    That brings up the Marines.  I want to make them “feel” like Marines.  Standard Marine units are Heavy Infantry (Represented by O8 Venator battlesuits with Rhino supports); Heavy Cav is probably “Terminators” with Land Raiders; Armored Arty. is Whirlwinds, Light Arty. is Vindicators, Light Cav. is Predators.  But with all that it feels a little too thin by comparison.  I’ll have to play it a few times to see how it feels in practice.

    Anyway, just tossing this out there.  Fellow HW players, what do you think?

    #74593
    Thaddeus Blanchette
    Thaddeus Blanchette
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    When will we see some pics? 🙂

    We get slapped around, but we have a good time!

    #74719

    Alexander Wasberg
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    I’d say to try it the way you’ve outlined it first, before tinkering too much. But if you decide to do so, then using the mech template to create custom units is a good way to represent units not otherwise present. Heavy Infantry can be used for marines like you say, but making terminators with transport heavy cav gives them the disadvantage of not being able to use recover actions due to cavalry special rules.

    But try it out first and see how you like it. Also I second Thaddeus request for photos 🙂

    #74780

    greg954
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    Sounds interesting, defo third vote for pics! I do enjoy being able to have a good rubber neck. 

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    #75100

    Mr. Average
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    Although I haven’t done the conventional forces yet, the first Titan is ready for battle: a “Dreadnought” Stalker (a preview generously provided by Vanguard Miniatures!) which is a very good match to a Reaver Titan.  This guy stands slightly straighter than the Reavers I remember from the old days, but is still a great match.  The joints are generous as well, allowing for some posing, and this was also as well because I found myself needing to pin it liberally due to my ineptitude with epoxy cement.  I also ended up with a little battle damage – you wouldn’t know it unless you looked for it, but the left leg broke at the knee, and also needed a pin to repair it.  Again, my poor handling was to blame.  Anyway, here’s what Reaver-class Titan “Superbus” of the I. Legio “Ultor” of the Collegia Titanica looks like.

    A really sharp piece, though, on all counts.  And it came with a LOT of weapons.  I opted for a classic missile launcher on the back, with a large arm cannon (probably a Quake Cannon or something similar) and a Power Fist.  The infantry is for scale – the Titans will do double duty in Imperial Horizons and Epic Armageddon.  As you can see, they scale really well and the Titan really shows its genuine size at this scale.

    I’ve been noticing lately that, for some reason, whenever I do model walkers, they seem to be leading with their left leg.  I wonder why that is.  Good look, makes him more dynamic.  But always the left.  Huh.

    #75103

    Alexander Wasberg
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    Wow 🙂

    Suitably impressive, the size feels right compared to the infantry.

    #76357

    Mr. Average
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    Out of curiosity, does anyone know if the HW conventional units are designs on the fly or if there’s a point value they’ve been built from? They don’t seem to add up like Mecha exactly, and there must be some cost associated with the Command Resources ability.

    Just doing math in my head is all.

    #76904

    Mr. Average
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    A little something-something happened here.  Wasting good miniatures is a crime against gaming, after all!

    And my customary base labels!  More important than usual for Horizon Wars to differentiate units.

    #76906
    Thaddeus Blanchette
    Thaddeus Blanchette
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    What are you using for the infantry there?

    We get slapped around, but we have a good time!

    #76907

    Mr. Average
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    O8 US WW2 Infantry.

    #76908

    Mr. Average
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    Incidentally: traitors.  Word Bearers, to be precise:

    #76912

    Alexander Wasberg
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    Those Word Bearers look pretty snazzy, it that O8 venerator PA for the traitor marines?

    #76939

    Mr. Average
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    Yes!  I clip them apart and use the slightly larger “middle” guy as my Terminators.  The others are my vanilla “marines.”  Though they lack the purpose-made slickness of Vanguard’s infantry, they’re very workmanlike and paint up very fast so they’re great for getting masses to the table ASAP.  And as I have a huge stockpile of O8 stuff (I bought a large order prior to a series of blizzards last winter and now have them in my “rainy day gaming” box) they’re right there.

    The bases, incidentally, are 45mm hexes from Litko, with Heavy-Duty adhesive magnetic bases.  The whole buildup makes the base about 4mm high, which suits me since I can then put marker labels on the face, as above.

    Incidentally, I’m also finding that Gamecraft ruins at 6mm scale actually work as close-to-actual-size ruins at 3mm scale.  Though generally speaking I prefer the abstraction of larger units and smaller buildings, since they’re really just representing bult-up areas and not structures individually, in the case of Horizon Wars and NetEA, where things are supposed to be more 1:1 scaled and less abstract, they feel more appropriate.  Next time you’re in the city take a look at big buildings and you’ll see what I mean.  Buildings are BIG.  Like B-I-G.  Even next to superheavy tanks they’d still be big.

    #76942
    Thaddeus Blanchette
    Thaddeus Blanchette
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    Love those Venerators! Going to be buying some of my own, soon.

    We get slapped around, but we have a good time!

    #76989

    Alexander Wasberg
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    The Venerators along with the Badger PA is my O8 favoirtes 🙂

     

    That building looks pretty spot on for HW, as you say 1:1 scale buildings works better for that particular ruleset, allthough I imagine certain installations would work just as well abstacted. An abstracted military depot or such is bound to have loads of cover, even if you can’t model it all at 3mm scale.

    I have a feeling I’m just going to mix and match a bit where I feel it’s appropriate..

    Looking forward to seeing more of your Word Bearers too!

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