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    So since all my peeps seem to be here I thought I’d run after them and join too.

    But I come with pictures too, From the GNW.

     

    Newest unit, Russian battalion from the Narvska regiment.

    The Russian Brigade

    My Allied army so far, 7 battalions 9 squadrons

    #67543
    norm smith
    norm smith
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    Lovely and I very much like the 3 base units, both attractive and functional.

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    Dan Kennedy
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    You see, this is why I focus on boardgames. I just can’t paint this well, not even close.

    That’s fantastic work, I love it. Keep it up.

    #67546

    Thanks,

    The 3 base units are for Beneath The Lilly banners, great rules.

    Here is the opposite side, the Swedes.

    This is half of my planned Swedish force. 54 cavalry in 9 Squadrons and 66 infantry in 3 battalions.

    I’m working on a 4th battalion now, and got a 5th in the painting queue. I’m waiting for the new cavalry to come out from Warfare before I start on the other half of the cavalry. All the cavalry is Warfare, 2 out of 3 battalions are Warfare, the last battalion is musketeer miniautres/Footsore. The generals are Ebor.

     

     

     

    #67547
    Mike
    Mike
    Keymaster

    Hi, thanks for popping over, is that your own paintwork?

    #67549

    Hi, thanks for popping over, is that your own paintwork?

     

    Yes, except for the flags, it’s all done by me.

     

    The flags for the Allied army is a mix of Warfare and Maverick models. While the Swedish flags are all Warfare.

    #67550
    Mike
    Mike
    Keymaster

    Well it is fair to say that since I last saw your stuff (which was a while ago) you have improved tonnes!
    Good skills!

    #67551
    Ochoin
    Ochoin
    Participant

    Truls (Gunfreak) just wow! Exceptional work.

     

    And welcome BTW.

     

    donald

    #67556
    William Harley
    William Harley
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    That’s a fine selection of beautifully painted figures, love the flags.

    #67557

    OB
    Participant

    Fine stuff!

    OB
    http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/

    #67563
    vtsaogames
    vtsaogames
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    Excellent work. And the Swedes really look like they are going Ga Pa.

    #67564
    kyoteblue
    kyoteblue
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    Wowzer that is beautiful work , Dude !!!

    #67569
    Cameronian
    Cameronian
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    It’s all been said already.

    #67570

    McKinstry
    Participant

    As the others have said, fantastic work. What is it you like most about the Lilly Banners rules?

    Never wrestle with a pig. You both get muddy and the pig just likes it.

    #67573

    As the others have said, fantastic work. What is it you like most about the Lilly Banners rules?

     

    I feel they capture the period better than any other rules I’ve read.

    The basic rules are quite easy, you dice for “initiative” so like a few other modern rules you might not be able to do everything you want in a turn.

    Then it follows the same principles most other rules use, moral, testing to charge etc.

    One of the things I do like is the cavalry, a unit is 6 figure “squadron” this represents 2 real squadrons, so if you follow a historical OOB, then a 4 squadron regiment will be 12 figures etc. Because the unit represents 2 squadrons, it assumes the officers keep a squadron or half a squadron in reserve and do their job.  For me, this seems more logical than the standard 12 figure cavalry units most rules seem to use.  My regiments are from 1-4 squadrons big(and by accident one of my Swedish regiments become 8 squadrons which would be a massive 16 real squadrons.

    The only advantage to having several squadrons from the same regiments in the same brigade is that once a game, you can combine up to I think 4 squadrons(24 figures) for an all out regimental charge, it does give some bonuses but isn’t like a super weapon.

    I like the emphasis on squadrons instead of regiments. Often feel rules ignore squadrons.

    The book might be slightly gamey by maybe overplaying the whole rank fire vs platoon fire thing and the cavalry that uses cold steel to charge vs the ones that fire off their pistols, but the author them self-does point out that it might be a bit overblown in the narratives of history, but it does give the period flare even if they flare might be slightly gamey.

    But a lot of the flare in the rules come from tweaking quality of the troops, the only special rules in the book are for the Swedes, they can march further per turn. They can move at angles others can’t and they MUST try and charge if the enemy is close enough. They shoot as pike and shot units not “all musket” units. So as a Swede you are forced to mostly fight as the Swedes very aggressive. As you’ll normally lose a shooting match.

    The Swedes are slightly super human. Up to 1709 No Swedish unit should be classed lower than Veteran, with several with the extra prefix “elite” And the guard is well guard(unlike most guard units) Given for a Swedish army you can have 4 guard battalions, and like 12 game squadrons of cavalry. You can have a very powerful force. The rules also recommend that the Russians should be mostly classed as raw with very few veterans and no guard.

    This means the game is kinda like British vs American militia in style quite asymmetrical. But even more so, because the British can shoot those militias to death. The Swedes will generally have very little artillery and they will not be able to shoot their enemy to death.

    After 1709 the Swedes are more normal again, still quite good, but many units don’t have pikes, they start using more artillery. Their generals become more mediocre.

    The rules recommend for the 1700-1709 period that the Enemy should outnumber the Swedes by 50-100%(I’d say in some cases 150%)

    #67632
    Noel
    Noel
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    I believe the phrase “oooh-la-la” comes to mind.

    #67637

    Thanks for the warm welcome people.  And Ochoin!

     

    Oh and it’s Ochoin you all can blame for me showing up. He’s the one that alerted me to the forum.

    #67639
    Ochoin
    Ochoin
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    And Ochoin! Oh and it’s Ochoin you all can blame for me showing up. He’s the one that alerted me to the forum.

    I thought you’d enjoy participating in a wargaming forum.

     

    donald

    #67642

    And Ochoin! Oh and it’s Ochoin you all can blame for me showing up. He’s the one that alerted me to the forum.

    I thought you’d enjoy participating in a wargaming forum. donald

     

    I do. Thank you.  Now were are your figures hiding on the forum?

    #67644
    Guy Farrish
    Guy Farrish
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    I’m a bit bit slow to the party but those figures and your painting are lovely.

    Thanks for the review of Beneath the Lily Banners.

    Not sure they sound quite what I’m looking for, but interesting to hear about them

    Oh yes! Welcome!

    #67650

    I’m a bit bit slow to the party but those figures and your painting are lovely. Thanks for the review of Beneath the Lily Banners. Not sure they sound quite what I’m looking for, but interesting to hear about them Oh yes! Welcome!

     

    BLB will come out in a 3rd edition late this summer.  I’m both excited and sceptical.  As this edition brings quite a few changes. It will come in 2 versions the one manly focused on the nine years war and useful for the Spanish succession too. And a separate edition for the Great northern war.

    On top of that they’ll be realising pdf supliments that will scale the rules to regimental sized battles at 1:5 scale. Perfect for the wars in the Americas. I’ll be using the supliments for my possible Norway 1716 campaign.

     

    #67654

    zippyfusenet
    Participant

    Nice to see yez, Gunny. Top-notch toy soldiers, and I appreciate the review of Lilly Banners. I wonder what the authors intend for North America? There were not many regulars on this side of the ocean before the mid-1700s; pikemen and cavalry were both mighty scarce. I have an interest in the early 18th century British aggressions against Spanish Florida, but the Spanish had so few troops in-theater that they could do little but hole up in St. Augustine and stand a siege. The action was mostly Creek Indians with British weapons and advisors raiding the poorly armed Mission Indians. I don’t know of any pitched battles between soldiers.

    You'll shoot your eye out, kid!

    #67663

    Nice to see yez, Gunny. Top-notch toy soldiers, and I appreciate the review of Lilly Banners. I wonder what the authors intend for North America? There were not many regulars on this side of the ocean before the mid-1700s; pikemen and cavalry were both mighty scarce. I have an interest in the early 18th century British aggressions against Spanish Florida, but the Spanish had so few troops in-theater that they could do little but hole up in St. Augustine and stand a siege. The action was mostly Creek Indians with British weapons and advisors raiding the poorly armed Mission Indians. I don’t know of any pitched battles between soldiers.

     

    You can check out the authors own blog post about his Carrebiean project.

     

    http://leagueofaugsburg.blogspot.no/2017/07/battle-for-britain-inside-caribbean.html?m=1

    #67681
    Cerdic
    Cerdic
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    Hello!

    Nice pictures of figures and a useful review of rules. Excellent!

    I know very little about this period and the various wars, but I do like the ‘look’. If only I had the time for a new project….

    #67742

    Hello! Nice pictures of figures and a useful review of rules. Excellent! I know very little about this period and the various wars, but I do like the ‘look’. If only I had the time for a new project….

     

    I started with Napoleonics. But now 90% of my work is 18th century.  Mostly  GNW/WSS. But a decent SYW project too.

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