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a covered withdrawal route to the rear

I guess it would seem unusual that they would not at least try/start to make their way out of the said tricky sitchiayshun

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Is this for your own use or do you sculpt for people?

For me at the moment Mike, when I have my chops down and can belt out a few licks then I’ll let people shower me with cash

This is a range of figures I own and am modifying and extending

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Yep Zippy, 1742 according to Lillian and Fred who I suspect got the reference straight from the “Clothing Book” ’cause it looks very very similar. Great painting and great inspiration.

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I would have posted more updates of this project… one problem, as much putty comes off as goes on! I see something, think I can do better, do better and repeat.

Sounds silly but it is the price paid as my ambition and abilities constantly change podium positions. The face has been resculpted 3 times, each time a little better than the last, in fact I have just cut the head off again because I’m quite sure the new tricks I have developed will make an even better head/face. The armour is only just surviving because it would mean major surgery to remove the existing leather, even though I know I could make a vast (in my mind) improvement.

Anyway here are some of the many versions

That’s ‘er in the background ‘nuthah variashun by golleeee

This is the main sculpting job http://www.thewargameswebsite.com/forums/topic/ye-olde-foote-guards/

 

 

 

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Any resemblance to the gorgeous Katheryn Winnick will be purely coincidental and dumb luck!

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Hi Guys, thanks for the comments. Did a heap of chain mail last night which isn’t as easy to get right as you would think and started on the pants and boots after a bit of Googling. I think I landed on a good, realistic, option for both though how much is going to be visible once I have the front skirt sections in place is not clear.

I had an armature which wasn’t working as intended and it occurred to me that a female form would fit. So this is just an exercise in sculpting, I’m still learning the in’s and out’s, tricky bit’s, why’s and wherefores, green stuff rules, etc. When your starting out on something new everything is an option, some not as good as others….. Katheryn Winnick is a pretty good option though

…that hair and doing the face is already making me panicky!

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here ya go http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/30-Hobby-Sanding-Sticks-Sanding-Assorted-Grits-2-sided-Sandpaper-Finishing-/391483586850?hash=item5b263d7922:m:m2XNd5Wog7dJ19J3x5NoYOQ

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This isn’t very helpful but…. I have come across this stuff on ebay (sorry no links), also in an Etsy shop for nail sculpting. In fact I use nail sculpting tools for greenstuff, same as the bigger silicone sculpting tool shapes but itty bitty.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141829789472?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

BTW thanks for the add to the man. directory.

 

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Test painting a few pieces for the next regiment Lifeguard of Foote, all work in progress. Selected firing and loading figures and they all appear to be from the Perry’s range and already painted to represent said unit.

As usual you can find more on the process here

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What looks right every time, of course the beauty of 1/285th scale is that front depth and height take on more realistic proportions particularly with massed troop formation armies. Of course in such a small scale being out by a millimetre is a big discrepancy so some thought has to be put in to the design.

In my opinion model makers do lose their way at times, for instance a door for 6mm size figures will be at least 7mm in height in a domestic situation, in a commercial or industrial building it would be 8mm…. this reflects what happens in the real world. Ceilings are nominally 2400mm in a domestic building and in an industrial situation more often than not 3000mm or higher.

I’m assuming you will put your buildings on bases to correct the base disparity? They are nice looking buildings by the way.

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First regiment just about done, Henry Tilliers Regt. of Foote

more photo’s and thoughts here

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So was I

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Big fan of Reaper used them for the last 12 years, the base (or mix) has changed slightly over that time, for the better I might add.

Recently sold all of my Reapers bar the HD’s and Gear Blitz lines and repurchased a few fave’s from the core colours. I wanted to cull my complete paint collection because it was getting out of hand. Dumped the Citadel Foundation (1st iteration) paints which never got used  because the Reaper HD’s are much better IMO. Also dumped my Vallejo Model Colour and Game Colour and re-purchased a handful of colours I really like.

So now I have fresh pots of the few Vellajo and Reaper Master Series core colours that I like, Full set of Reaper HD’s and a brand new set of Scalecolour paints (about 63 pots)….. I now have 200 less pots of paint than previously, I said it was getting out of hand!

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I was learnt pretty much the same as NCS. Grape was a predominately naval round and packed for large bore cannon with canister rounds coming packed for smaller bore field guns. I wouldn’t swear that grape was not used by land artillery as I’m sure  there may be cases this was so, albeit my remembering was earlier than the Nap period.

If your asking about artillery coming in effective range of artillery (and I imagine we are talking the more mobile horse artillery), yes it must have. Once again I’m relying on less than perfect remembering, let me put a hypothetical to you.

An artillery battery laying effective fire on a target, cav, inf, BUA take your pick why would it not be possible to imagine horse artillery battery to set up and put pressure on the opposing battery. Whether that would be in canister range or not I cannot say but I’m sure that those that read Nap battle history would be able to cite an example without much difficulty. I can find examples for Frederick the Greats 12pdr Brummers (field artillery) in the 7yw closing to effective range with ball…. so?

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Possibly useful to have a product sticky on some pages so’s that peep can ‘add to’ for mini’s and terrain stuff, not for chit chat though, maybe same for resource and reference material.

Dunno really, run it up the flagpole and see who salutes..

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Multiple headed post ol’boy, which one do I address first or indeed which order…

Because my interest and knowledge of Napoeonics is limited I should start there but the subject of the internet on our hobby is much more important than pages of discussion about balls on what is at it’s very very best an abstracted stimulation, but such is war gaming (to borrow from Ned Kelly).

So reading between the lines ( and the lines themselves) we are discussing the pro’s and con’s of “teh internetz” and it’s ability to gather like minded enthusiasts of a particular hobby, attitude, enthusiasm, interest etc etc etc….. not really Napoleonic period artillery at all…. and why some people are complete arseholes, dickheads, know it all’s, helpful, sharing and all the other states that anonymity and human nature provide?

OK this is the only way I can explain my position on the internet re war gaming

I love cooking, the internet has expanded my arsenal of dishes in a way I could not have imagined with real, authentic recipes written and posted by the people that grew up in the food culture I might be looking at that particular day, recipes that are handed down from generation to generation. Cooking forums are full of passionate people who love to share, they are just lovely people.

I love painting miniatures, the internet is full of really helpful people who love sharing their tips, techniques and product/tool discoveries. With practice I have been able to incorporate new techniques, paints and tips to improve my miniature painting. “Painting” forums are full of passionate and encouraging people, post a picture with a question and someone is always prepared to offer advice.

I used to love war gaming, I still enjoy it but in a limited fashion. The “war gaming” internet is a mixed grab bag of people all passionate about their opinion on what is right or wrong with any war gaming subject you care to raise, I like to think (hopefully rightly) that the majority are supportive of ideas and offer their advice in a positive manner. Unfortunately historical war gaming, by definition, is full of amateur historians…. historians love to argue (in a debating sense), it is necessary to come to a generally accepted conclusion. A large chunk of war game historians love to argue to prove that they have a greater and more exact knowledge than their peers, interestingly the further back, in historical terms, you go  the less dogmatic and frequent the arguments are with the late 18th early 19th century seemingly being the zenith. It is also worth pointing out that war gaming is a competitive hobby, competition is known to attract, or convert normal people to, dickheads…. most of us can play a game cheering our little toys on and finish a game with a friendly beer and bullshit, some just cant let go. Finally, certain war gaming sites are a magnet for the type of people who, with the cloak of anonymity, are wankers…. solution? Change polarity.

Well, that is my way of explaining the internet re hobbies, interest etc. Yes, it is a positive and wonderful tool, if you come across knob ends move on…. dont engage them, there are plenty of war game forums and discussion groups out there.

 

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Ren Ottoman Turks? You must like painting horses. The best rules for the period were Gush’s WRG set. Dated now though, as the bright young things demand faster, smaller, shorter. As do I, if I’m honest. Impetus would do I reckon, as long as you didn’t go ‘late renaissance’. Whatever that may be. Muskets and stuff I suppose.

This bright young thing will point you in the direction of Baroque, being the renarsehonce version of Impetus. Farce book group….. or page will steer you in the right direction young man and Lorenzo is pretty quick at answering queries and questions via the FB medium.

 

 

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Pretty simples, yellow is a mistake we all make and I should know

Go to your light sand and ivory colours, in this instance leave the yellow as undercoat and highlight with a bone or ivory, line your paints up and work out the tones and brightness of your light colours. The rest will sort itself out with a bit of practice.

I started this with desert sand or something similar and ended it with bleached bone for a golden blond, about as close to yellow as I dare go nowadays

light brown orange for the base on this’un

Seems dumb but apparently blond is a mutation of red hair…… or red is a mutation of blonde hair genes….. so they go together somehow hence most blondes are strawberry blonde.

Reaper Master Series has a good blonde hair triad, if your not inclined to buy just go to their web site and study the colours they use. The best tip I can offer is look at blond and red and brunette haired people… but dont get caught staring, you’ll either get arrested or propositioned.

Studying real life things is the best painting advice ever.

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I should tell you off for using yellow for blonde but I wont because you’ve been traumatized enough by these chaps….. and I can sympathise. The psychological impact of an innocent cock-up of ones toys is not to be under estimated. Beautiful battle group….. now about that yellow hair……..

“Thir must be less tae life than this”

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We have movies such as Terminator moving into post apoc territory plus Book of Eli and the firmly rooted The Road book and film.Then there are game series/franchises Borderlands and Fallout with the latest, Fallout 4 making a splash (Interestingly the production crew of Fallout were asked to read The Road). Post apoc would make for an interesting setting although there is some (not much) debate on weapons i.e. would we be back to sticks and stones just how scifi is it?

The world of Perdido Street Station does not involve a war setting either,  gang related and security forces scrapes mostly, varied races living in a City State trading with similar City States and not based on our earth. It is my idea of Steam Punk rather than the Victorian Science Fiction version that seems to have hijacked the genre. The world has developed science and tech but in the form of thaumaturgy, magnetics, pyschetic and the ever reliable steam. Computing exists but electric power does not, a great balance between sci and fant though more heavily weighted to the sci side of the balance and interstingly (for me) the first sci-fi book I had bought and finished reading in over 45 years….. sci-fi’s not my thing usually

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A free and reasonably powerful (for the price) image manipulation software that could do what your after is GIMP, it will allow for resize to physical/real life measurements…. and you can draw the flags yourself if you that way inclined. Well worth watching the you tube clips for tutorial purposes, isn’t exactly intuitive

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Bas Lag, New Crobuzon, Tesh, Armada. China Mievilles world particularly in the form as described in Perdido Street Station and Iron Council, if someone was to create that world I would be in like Flinn. Scar’s Armada for some watery goodness

Dont let me ol’ China write the rules…… take a year to read them and two volumes of glossary to understand.

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All of the above, unfortunately all of the above are personal and subjective.

I look for dynamic, well animated, properly proportioned dare I say it, believable figures, I know this reads dumb if you consider sci-fant …. but does it really? Just because the figure might be an ‘alf Ork or a Teifling doesn’t mean it should avoid selling believability.

For instance GW’s War Hammer sci-fant figures are way beyond what I would consider believable. Along comes Peter Jackson and suddenly  GW makes believable fantasy creatures IMO. Fortunately most of what I collect is historical so ….you know.

Lastly another intangible, paintability, if a figure or vehicle passes muster on my criteria above it still has to sing to me, I have to want to paint it. I’m even prepared to to loosen my criteria slightly if the figure makes my brush finger itch, there are genres and periods I would love to game yet the figures dont stimulate my painting lobe/cortex whatever and the reverse is true also, hence my some what eclectic collection of figures.

Well that should be enough eh?

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Dentist over….

I’ve had time to ponder (it’s okay it doesn’t leave a stain), unless your sample wargamer is in a job which requires basic maths skills and mental arithmetic then I must concede that…..

….thanks to the power of teh internetz, I’ve noticed that a lot of wargamers just can’t seem to wrap their heads around the concept of scaling.

I would also add if your sample wargamer is in a job which requires basic maths skills and mental arithmetic they are more than likely to be too lazy  take the time to understand when they can use social media/teh internetz to ask someone just as lazy “does this look right”

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*man hug*

Well war gamers aren’t scale modellers, they blur the lines in the appearance of their toys in artistic sense . Evidence you ask? News agent, I reply.

Are war gamers really interested in talking scale as opposed to overall appearance, the evidence suggests no, not that much. Do they do the math, can they do the math… no and, I suspect, yes but evidence for the latter is harder to find.

Personally I still referred, until quite recently, to 1/56th figures as my preferred scale to game and paint, 99% of the time my next line would be “28mm”. Frankly I have just about given up using scale talk and as far as 1610 or 1730.

So, the next musing, if you would allow me to muse with you, would be ……do sculptors understand scale, do they care, do I care? They certainly need to understand ratios and proportion (with the basic unit being the head) …and anatomy (maybe) and whether the figure is required to be 37mm to the eye or to “1730”. Do they get anymore sale/size information from the commissioner of the figure…..

Dentist appointment, will muse later

 

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Might I suggest that everyone reads my OP again, carefully? I’m aware that figure/actual combatant scale is a fudge. I’m aware that ground scale is a fudge. I’m aware that terrain/building scale is a fudge. None of this bothers me.

I think it does tho, your becoming aggressive, you dont fool me with your emotes

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That ain’t what I’m on about though. I’m on about the average wargamer’s concept of scale as a thing. Et vous, cher Etranger, gave us all a clue with your pics of the comedy Germans, and wot you wrote in that post

Pah, everyone knows that, it is the way the world works…. except for ze Germans. Now let get back off topic (smile)

Amicalement

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“fair representations of…”

I thought that was what the war gaming table is, fr’instance I much prefer to use HO/OO/72nd/20mm buildings for 28mm games because they are a good compromise between what fits with the figure and what I can represent as a village. Five 20mm size buildings on the same footprint as two or three strictly 28mm size buildings is far more acceptable to the eye…. my eyes. I dont think I have ever had anyone pick up on the scale difference between the buildings and the figures so I think it must look right.

Assuming this is what we’re talking about, or have I missed the point?

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Phil Dutré wrote:

We always end with a glass of whisky while debriefing/discussing the game we just played.

Only one? That’s no how yoo drenk whiskay…

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Free bagging is de rigueur when playing on odd numbered days

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Well I dont seem to have many, all fantasy which I dont play but I find a really good vehicle for painting. Pervy historical figures…. well I’m not sure or convinced that they have a practical place on the TT but then I could say the same for sheep, bunny rabbits and blacksmiths, well OK in small action/scenarios they may have some input to the narrative.

With the fantasy pervy figures I dont see them as pervy in particular, I’m more interested in the animation and pose of the figure and how well the anatomy registers with real life. I tend to shun away from the figures with unplausibly perky bosoms but it can be difficult to find female figures that dont have gravity defying boobs and bottoms…  Hasslefree’s nude studies make for good painting challenges and fit the bill.

OK having cleared the air a figure must have appeal, so a dynamic pose coupled with implausible armour makes for a great figure when carefully painted. There are some great female painters who single out “hot chicks” as their favourite models to paint… Jen Hayley and Marike Reimer to name two. To cap off my diatribe, today my wife selected a pervy figure at a bring and buy for me to paint for her, legs up to its armpits, more curves than your standard Formula One Grand Prix track and armour offering more exposed flesh than properly recommended by the guild of blacksmiths.

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Nice Mike, very nice indeed.

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I keep my amp under the painting desk, gives it that warm rich valve sound.

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When I find where I have hidden my copy of Savory I will dig up some references for you, mainly in orders of battle. In July 1760 (significant date)  all 5 battalions were stationed in Soest as part of  von Sporkens command and are listed as part of the “light troops division*”

*my terminology

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The idea of stretch goals and more importantly “rewards” have muddied the idea of crowd funding. Crowd funding was a very simple concept, you had an idea for a good or service that needed financing… you dont have enough money to get it out there, banks dont like lending but there is a ground swell of people that do see the benefit of your idea and are willing to put a small amount into it to see it come to fruitition because they would like to purchase it. Simple.

What we have now is an I want, gimme, gimme beast of a system instead of a prepay-preorder concept. I have put money into a dozen or so Crowd Funding projects, all bar two delivered in a timely fashion with one being interrupted by the death of a key player the other being bogged down in latin temprement.

This new concept of Crowd Funding means you have to do your home work, you are to become a venture capitalist and they dont muck around, still even the best VC’s make a wrong bet occasionally. Remember that a campaign has to not only appeal to you but you have to decide whether it would have broader appeal for it’s target audience and that the people with the great idea have the means to make it work once it is funded. The best recent example I pledged for was Zombicide Black Plague, it was the 2nd in the Zombicide series so it had history in both the ability of the concepts proposers and public appeal, the figures were sculpted by industry professionals and the proposers were a well established entity (Cool mini or not). Upshot I received the game (with heaps of very nice figures ) on the very day they aimed for.

My latest backing has been for Tercios Miniatures and being a Spanish company they were a little harder to background but I did my homework. This is as risky as I’m likely to take when it comes to my hard earned, however I’m reasonably confident the project will succeed, not so much with the time frame….. and they are figures I want and will be happy to wait for. There is a link for you below to follow the ups and downs of this KS and laugh at me if it goes pear shaped.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1418344245/tercios-miniatures/description

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paintpig wrote:

, I believe I painted a couple of regiments for this some time ago. ‘Bout 5 or 6 Regt’s all up wasn’t there?

5 battalions of infantry and 5 squadrons of cavalry, the jury is still out if they were line or light infantry, though I think I will base half a battalion as light infantry.

They were most definitely formed as a petite guerre counter force, in my mind I think they should be able to fight in companies. How is open to debate, fighting as light troops doesn’t define petite guerre but it doesn’t discount the theory that they may have been able to skirmish either. I think it would be very likely that some portion of each company or a company or two would have, light troop ability or they simply would not have been able to execute their formation mandate.

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Cheers William ol’bean, propah toy soldiers must be painted in the propah toy soldier manner and you got it down pat… the cheeks could be a bit rosier

Ah yes the Legion, I believe I painted a couple of regiments for this some time ago. ‘Bout 5 or 6 Regt’s all up wasn’t there?

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On my painting table….. evidence of a very troubled mind listening to View from the Veranda, I don’t know if the two are connected.

and what I’m working on besides pushing some green stuff which is at the fore.

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and done in the correct toy soldier manner, nice

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G’day Smitty, blog’n good.

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Just a gamer, huddled with other gamer’s and forced to use an adjective I will say historical gamer, I dont refight battles but I use historically based figures. Amongst the general populace I drop the historical and use figure/miniature as the descriptor. I think Gamer covers it well enough in most cases.

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