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For my really early war stuff, I use the grey/brown camo scheme, which I saw on the Flames of War website, to break up the grey. It was discontinued after the Fall of France though, IIRC. I didn’t think about it too much, just used the quite dark grey in the Vallejo range. I have some Panzer IVFs for Barbarossa on my painting tray at the moment, and they are just getting the grey. A little dull perhaps, but no more than the Soviet or Allied stuff. Apologies, don’t know if any of that was any help.
WhirlwindParticipantOotKust, okay, but apart from the Funckens (all Funckens? or just the Napoleonic volumes?), are you actually recommending any single or twin-volume uniform works?
WhirlwindParticipantThis may be of some interest if you are into fantasy miniatures, particularly if you are a North American
WhirlwindParticipantTwo alternative options:
1 – the method in Martin Wallace’s ‘Waterloo’, where the opposing player draws your activity chit in secret, and when you have used up to this action maximum, your opponent shows you the chit. Or if you have played Space Hulk, imagine the Genestealer player draws the Marine player’s CP-chit secretly.
2 – randomly generate the moment of stopping. so in a DBx-type game, every time you expend a PIP, roll to see if the turn ends. If it would a multi-PIP action, then roll multiple times – if you fail, you can’t do that action but you can take actions for the PIP points you do have (e.g. you try and take a 3-pip action; you roll 3 die and score 4,1,1 – 1 indicating the turn ends; you can take a 1 PIP action instead of a 3-pip action).
WhirlwindParticipantYes, I will. I haven’t been able to post anything as yet because the fog-of-war aspect is so important for this, but I will do so as soon as I can.
WhirlwindParticipantHi Buck,
There aren’t any positions left in this campaign (there were only two). The campaign is about halfway through now, so I hope to start another campaign around the end of April.
19/03/2024 at 09:18 in reply to: War if the Spanish Succession Uniform Guide – Best Single Volume work #196189WhirlwindParticipantNo specifics at this time, thanks for your help NCS.
WhirlwindParticipantThanks! For anywhere in the European part of the Napoleonic Wars, the East Coast of Spain 1808-14 might give you the one of the widest choices of uniforms and states involved, despite the quite low numbers overall.
19/03/2024 at 07:17 in reply to: War if the Spanish Succession Uniform Guide – Best Single Volume work #196186WhirlwindParticipantThanks NCS. I had been considering either getting the Grant book, or the Louis XIV and Marlborough’s Army Ospreys are somesuch, but I am hearing a fairly definitive no…
WhirlwindParticipantThanks, I will give the blogpost a read and the YouTube vid a watch.
WhirlwindParticipantThanks Guy – I guess 1 and 3 make some sense. Don’t think I have offended anyone recently…
WhirlwindParticipantThe official history is not a bad start. There is also a bit in ‘The Tiger Strikes’, I think there is a free online version IIRC.
WhirlwindParticipantMore-or-less what John said. Structurally there isn’t very much difference, forces largely think in ways recognizable to 1944-45.
I think the reverse question is also interesting: take a modern set (Force-on-Force, No End in Sight, Black Ops, WRG) – what is the latest date in history they wouldn’t be suitable?
WhirlwindParticipantThanks for all the comments and recommendations so far.
WhirlwindParticipantthanks ian, appreciated.
WhirlwindParticipantMany thanks all
WhirlwindParticipantThat’s useful, thanks Mikes. I am still having a little trouble thinking how to represent that as texture/colour on a model though. Just painting off-white seems insufficient? Or am I over-thinking it?
WhirlwindParticipantI am guessing yes, although I am not sure when that would have all come off…
WhirlwindParticipantWas thinking in Middle Kingdom, rather than Pulp ’20s, if that is what you were getting at?
WhirlwindParticipantWas just re-visiting this thread, thanks NTM, very useful.
WhirlwindParticipantThanks Norm, Mick, we will give it a whirl then.
WhirlwindParticipantOkay great, let’s see if we get one more. Choice of side (French or Austrian)?
WhirlwindParticipant@Sane Max,
For your small army, to do it really quickly, I would ignore:
Hungarian Infantry, Hussars, Uhlans, Grenzers
And include:
‘German’ Infantry, Landwehr in greatcoats, Jaegers, Cuirassiers, Dragoons, Light Horse, Artillery
WhirlwindParticipantFinally got enough energy not to sit around after doing the washing up today (still falling asleep after any activity post C19) and decided I would complete the full set of felt terrain for my block OHW games. I did find a couple of calculation errors on my sheet and one redundant hill (I’m not fussed if the hill is 5x10cm vs 7x9cm TBH) but here is my set: I may redo the marshes at some point (the two grey/blue in the middle) – I’ve since found a darker green/brown/blue sheet of felt but that’s for another day…
My set-up is very very similar to yours for OHW games: I have a wicker basket with two slim plastic boxes in, one for all the terrain bases (very similar to your felt) and the houses and bridges and so on, and the other one for the trees. The set of hills I keep around the edges of the basket. And then the two ultra-slim plastic boxes with the WSS figures live on top. It is a really handy set up and has all the ‘basic’ terrain I need in for any game, plus ‘all’ the terrain I need for any OHW scenario.
WhirlwindParticipantOh, there are some great ideas in there, very many thanks!
WhirlwindParticipantThanks Tony. I guess a mixture of less armoured Byzantine infantry and a mixture of Norman, Byzantine and Goth cavalry should work okay?
WhirlwindParticipantThanks willz
WhirlwindParticipantI hate to think how much time I’ve spent since 1970 ‘researching,’ all the fiddly little details and then applying them to tiny lead soldiers. I’ve finally realised life’s too bloody short 🙂
🙂!
Everything that NCS just said, including about the greatcoats. Arthur Harman once suggested just having all the infantry on both sides like that, then adding command figures to depict individual nationalities.
Beyond that, Spanish armies post-1808 are easy, especially the ones in tail-less jackets and either top hat or plain shako. I think Old Glory have some of these. Minifigs have the 1812 range in plain uniforms with stovepipe shakos, they are easy too.
http://www.miniaturefigurines.co.uk/images/catalogue/11NS.jpg
Cavalry can be British light dragoons in Tarleton, or French Chasseurs a Cheval.
Similarly, Portuguese and Prussians in campaign dress are pretty easy.
Austrians are either very difficult or very easy, depending upon how you feel about painting white uniforms.
WhirlwindParticipantThanks very much Tony, appreciate it. And agreed that OHW is genuinely worth it for the scenarios alone.
I did some wrap-up thoughts on the project here, but broadly I found it really worthwhile and enjoyable, and has had quite an impact on how I am thinking about gaming at the moment. I can see myself doing it again at some point, although I might do the Battlegames Teasers and the Grant & Asquith Scenarios for All Ages first I think.
WhirlwindParticipantThat bit works fine. A platoon will typically be 3 x 30mm wide bases, with maybe 2-3 15mm round bases attacked in my set up, so even on a 600mm board, there is plenty of space for a company. WRG 1925-50 worked okay, and that had typically 3 times as many elements, so there is plenty of space in this game.
I guess a full company of Tigers against IS-2s might stretch things a little, given that the board represents 1.2km x 1.2km but generally speaking, no issues so far.
WhirlwindParticipantThanks both, useful start points. How widely were kite shields used at this time? Or will I just have to make do (fine if so)?
WhirlwindParticipantPerfect, thanks both (and it is for small unit actions).
WhirlwindParticipantvery nice! they have a ‘glorious technicolor’ look about them, to my eye.
WhirlwindParticipantThanks John, I have found the results so far pretty convincing as well. I am not sure that there are many scenarios in KG Klink which have the right kind of artillery support (JustJack adds it as a pre- or post-game narrative equalizer as far as I can see), so I might rig up a couple of one-off scenarios to test out the artillery sub-system, and maybe the engineering one too.
WhirlwindParticipantThanks Thuseld, you are too kind. Just out of interest, the table is:
Base is a Noch Spring Meadow paper-backed mat.
Most of the area terrain features are on roofing-type felt, although my old stuff on mdf wasn’t so different in looks. The felt is a little easier to shape when building, and mold to relief on the table.
Trees are mainly from Amazon and ebay, with a couple of home-made ones to mix it-up.
Walls & buildings are bought, they definitely looked better than my home-made efforts, which were ‘ok-ish’ at best. There are lots of great 6mm building manufacturers.
Flock and static grass is a mixture of Javis and Noch. I have a flock box so the exact shades change over time. Every so often I buy some ‘heath’ or ‘moor’ flock or whatever for a new terrain piece, and I add some to the general flock box too.
WhirlwindParticipantThanks, DSG. These are rules someone else is writing.
WhirlwindParticipantAre there any sources of scenarios around which add a little bit more depth or unusual starting positions? Ideally something that lists suggested forces. I am happy to convert from historical and scale up if needed.
Can’t go too far wrong with the 30 scenarios in One Hour Wargames. Scenarios for all Ages is good too. Given the size of game you want to play, I would probably make all the individual ‘units’ in these scenarios into appropriate brigades of several units.
This one (a collection of ‘Tabletop Teasers’ from Battlegames) is pretty good too.
WhirlwindParticipantHappy New Year Andrew – and best of luck with your plans!
WhirlwindParticipantThanks Willz and Andrew.
Yes, you are quite right Andrew – eliminating most of the wood would be just fine, or reducing it and adding a bit more room on the top would be fine. I have my little concerns about the scenario in any case though.
28/12/2023 at 21:07 in reply to: A Portable Wargame – The Nutcracker (Miniature Wargames with Battlegames #386) #193713WhirlwindParticipantHa! Whoops. Thanks Andrew. It was a really interesting concept and good scenario – well done Arthur Harman, it would never have occurred to me in a million years.
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