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  • #65540
    Avatar photoPaskal
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    Howdy All

    I believe that Stephen Manley I have 12 booklets for the armies of the WAS I do not have the N ° V, N ° VI, N ° X, N ° XI and N ° XII and of which they spoke?

    But in total there have been 12…

    N°1 French Army

    N°2 British Army

    N°3 Duch Army

    N°4 Spanish Army

    N°5 ? Army

    N°6 ? Army

    N°7 Russian & Swedish Armies

    N°8 Italian States Armies

    N°9 Danish and German States Armies

    N°10 ? Army

    N°11 ? Army

    N°12 ? Army

    Where to find the N° 5, 6, 10, 11 and 12 ?

    Later

    #65560
    Avatar photoHwiccee
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    Hi Breton,

     

    N5 was the Prussian army  – https://www.amazon.co.uk/War-Austrian-Succession-1740-1745-Wargamers/dp/1900688050/ref=sr_1_60?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1498324739&sr=1-60

    N6 I think was the Austrian army

    N10 was Jacobite Standards and flags – https://www.amazon.co.uk/Colours-Standards-War-Austrian-Succession/dp/1900688506/ref=sr_1_31?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1498324651&sr=1-31

    N11 I think was perhaps another book about flags but I don’t remember really

    N12 Is about Naval warfare – https://www.amazon.co.uk/Naval-Warfare-1739-1748-succession-wargamers/dp/1900688123/ref=sr_1_52?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1498324739&sr=1-52

     

    I think you can still buy N12 but I am not sure you can easily get the others.

     

     

    #65561
    Avatar photoPaskal
    Spectator

    Hi Hwiccee

    Bravo, I found the N ° XII in my library but I will need the other 4 …

    Latter

    Breton

     

    #65565
    Avatar photoHwiccee
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    Breton,

     

    I think that for the Prussians and Austrians (if N6 is about the Austrian army) then there is better information available now online and in other books. I think these are not available because there are better sources available now. So I would not worry about finding these. I do not know about N10 and N11 but I think that these are also not available because better is available.

    #65578
    Avatar photoPaskal
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    Hwiccee

    It’s possible, whatever depends on the tastes of each one, but it’s for the ‘collection’ side and for the pleasure of looking for them and finding them.

    Do you understand?

    Now the complete list is I believe:

     
    N°1 : Uniforms of the French Army 1740-1748

    N°2 : Uniforms of the British Army 1739 – 1748

    N°3 : Uniforms of the Dutch Army 1740-1748

    N°4 : Uniforms of the Spanish Army 1739-1748 (2d ed)

    N°7 : Uniforms of the Russian and Swedish Army 1741-1748

    N°8 : Uniforms of the Armies of the Italian States

    N°9 : Uniforms of the Danish and German States Armies 1739-1748

    N° 12:Naval Warfare 1739-1748 The War of the Austrian Succession

    N° ?: Italian Inf, Colors and Standards of the War of the Austrian Succession ?

    N° ?: English Colors and Standards of the War of the Austrian Succession ?

    N° ?: Jacobite Colors and Standards of the War of the Austrian Succession ?

    N° ?: Spanish Colors and Standards of the War of the Austrian Succession ?

    But nothing about the Prussians and Austrians ?

    It’s weird and strange…

    Any help to find N°5, 6, 10 and 11 is accepted, thank you.

    Later

    #65603
    Avatar photoHwiccee
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    Breton,

     

    OK I see you are collecting them. I am afraid that you might have a lot of difficulty doing that 🙁 I think you could get some one who has them (I only have the ones you have) to copy them for you. Other than that then I guess Ebay and similar will be your best bet.

    I saw the post on TMP. I do not know the poster but frankly I would not trust TMP too much generally.

    I think that the problem is that these were published twice and with different titles. I think that they are actually two different sets, certainly the titles suggest they are. One set is called ‘Colours and Standards’ of the WAS and the other WAS, ‘Uniforms of the ??? Army’

    So for example we have – N0.5 Colours and Standards

    http://www.kriso.ee/colours-standards-war-austrian-succession-bk-db-9781900688451.html

    From the same company but with a different ISBN No.5 uniforms

    http://www.kriso.ee/war-austrian-succession-pt-5-uniforms-db-9781900688055.html

     

    I don’t have these or indeed any of the ‘Colours and Standards’ ones. But all of the ones I have (the ‘Uniform’ ones) do not have information on flags and so I think it is likely that there were 2 sets of booklets.

    ‘Colours and Standards’ 1 to 10 I think and ‘Uniforms’ 1 to 12.

    The same number book is about the same army. So Number 4 is about the Spanish and this is why the poster on TMP and you have two Spanish books on the  list. I am sure No.5 is about the Prussians and No.10 the Jacobite – see previous reply. I have found further information confirming that No.6 is the Austrians – https://www.bookdepository.com/Colours-Standards-War-Austrian-Succession-Austrian-Cavalry-Infantry-1740-1748-Book-6-Stephen-Manley/9781900688468

    No.12 in the Uniforms set is about the Navy. I do not know about number 11 Uniforms. I originally thought there was a ‘wargames guide’ to the war – general information about the war – so maybe there was and this was ‘Uniforms’ number 11.

    So in short I think there are 22 booklets and NOT 12. 2 on each of 10 armies/groups of armies and 2 on general warfare.

    I hope this helps and that you find some of these. I think that these booklets should really be printed again as they are very useful and missed.

    #65607
    Avatar photoGeneral Slade
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    Caliver Books appear to have a few of them in stock, though most are listed on their Amazon site rather than in their main catalogue:

    This could also be one of the set (though the author isn’t listed so I’m not certain): http://caliverbooks.com/bookview.php?jd4cdpud4anim5jgkh8obj52u3&id=11495&subcatcode=D&subcatno=27

    Finally, there is another book in the series being offered on Amazon for the princely sum of 1p: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/1900688506/ref=tmm_pap_used_olp_0?ie=UTF8&condition=used&qid=&sr=

    #65610
    Avatar photoPaskal
    Spectator

    Thank you but I have them all there and the one for the princely sum of 1p, after amazon or for the seller, impossible  to send it to Brittany ..?

    #65984
    Avatar photoOldNick
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    I did not know about these books.  Thank you for posting about them.

    #65986
    Avatar photoPaskal
    Spectator

    Some love them like me and others, but others detest them, go and find out who is right?

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