- 12/05/2020 at 11:55 #136282The Waxed MoustacheParticipant
Greetings. I have finally succumbed to the temptations of 2mm gaming, and the First World War in particular. Does anyone have advice on making 2mm scale trench systems, wire, and other WWI Wester Front-type scenics?
I have 15mm experience so am not a newbie, so happy for a challenge.
With wire, I was thinking posts but no actual wire, yet how on earth do I even find posts in 2mm?
Many thanks in advance!12/05/2020 at 12:17 #136286Tony HughesParticipant
Not quite 2mm (but I did other periods in 2mm) but I did some WW2 stuff in 3mm (1/600th) and used the fine wire from an old cable as the wire – just coiled around a barbeque skewer. I didn’t bother with posts, just a few drops of superglue on the base along the line of the wire and hold the wire down for a few seconds until it sets enough to hold.
I know early WW1 wire was not laid in rolls line that but, if you want the linear entanglements you can drill the base and put in florist’s wire a few mm apart and then entangle the wires randomly through the maze of posts, trimming off any post that are too long afterwards. Fiddly but it works OK in 6mm.
Tony of TTT12/05/2020 at 14:29 #136294Darkest Star GamesParticipant
I think it would depend upon if you want the trenches to look realistic or be able to put your troop bases inside the trench or not, and what size the bases are. If your bases are 1″ deep then a trench system will look very odd and as if it is for another scale. Do you want the trenches to be modular, or have a static board type setup?
"I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."12/05/2020 at 14:37 #136297Mr. AverageParticipant12/05/2020 at 14:38 #136298Mr. AverageParticipant12/05/2020 at 15:34 #136301Mike HeaddenParticipant
The best 3mm scale trenches I’ve seen were top down images of complete trench systems glued to MDF rectangles. No attempt made to sink entrenched troops into the landscape. Simple, basic but effective and practical. Not to mention easy to store!
I don’t know what the dimensions of the MDF was but I’d guess around 100mm by 50mm. There or thereabouts.
Barbed wire was thin fuse wire wrapped around thin transparent plastic tubing to make coiled wire. Two or three rows to a base. The tubing stopped fat fingers crushing the wire. I’d guess these were around 100mm by 20 or 25mm.
A more artistic version of this hastily created daub 🙂
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is entirely optional!12/05/2020 at 17:44 #136306McKinstryParticipant
A couple of years ago a gentleman from Denver put on gorgeous 6mm WW1 game at Historicon. Perhaps some pictures from then are still around and might provide some ideas?
The tree of Life is self pruning.12/05/2020 at 18:05 #136307Thaddeus BlanchetteParticipant
Go with O8’s 3mm line instead. Much more detailed and so many more options than Irregular’s 2mm line.
We get slapped around, but we have a good time!12/05/2020 at 18:40 #136308SteelonsandParticipant
Throwing in a curve ball here – but Timecast in the UK do some excellent items in their 6mm ranges, that for my money are scaled too small for the 6, but would work well with the 2 ……
scratch-building wise, I think the idea of posts On their own representing the wire entanglement would be good – maybe cut down pins ?13/05/2020 at 07:58 #136323MartinRParticipant
I made a bunch of trenches in 12,6 and 3 inch lengths using thin MDF bases with a layer of filler on them, and the trenches scraped out using a piece wood. Painted the whole lot mud coloured, did the trench depressions a darker brown and flocked the upper sides. Job done. I use them with 2mm and 6mm stuff.
They can be arranged in various configurations.
"Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" - Helmuth von Moltke14/05/2020 at 19:13 #136398The Waxed MoustacheParticipant
Darkest Star: won’t put bases in them as I’m looking at 1 base = company and/or battalion
All: thanks for the great suggestions. Plenty of food for thought!
I have some 6mm ACW but 2mm seems another world again. Fun though. Will consider the 3mm
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