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  • #103457
    Darkest Star GamesDarkest Star Games
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    Here’s a tease of the first of my 6mm space craft, a Venturian Small Trader:

    Had Charles Oines work on this while I attended to 6mm versions of the Garrhul grav tanks.  All have been sent off to the printer!  Hopefully my caster will get my last bit of new stuff wrapped up so he can then get on these!

    There is also a human Free Trader and Garrhul Raider Scout in the works, as well as “small craft”.

    On a design note, the few panel lines is intentional.  In the DS ‘verse most of the major powers make use of “3d printing” type technology (but vastly superior of course), so large sections can be manufactured as single components then put together. So this means that lower-tech vehicles and ships will have many more panel lines and greeblies than advanced ones.

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #103463
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    I love it, I kiss it, it’s beautiful! No idea what I’d use it for but I’ve long wanted to build a Traveller-esque Force from DS models – I better start saving up!

    #103472
    MikeMike
    Keymaster

    I would love to see that painted, but I fear to do it justice would mean an airbrush and masking tape and stencils.
    But how very pretty it would be.

    Reminds me a bit of Thunderbird 2.

    #103500
    Darkest Star GamesDarkest Star Games
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    I love it, I kiss it, it’s beautiful!

    Thanks man!  We had a lot of back and forth on this and I think it hits dead-on.

    I would love to see that painted, but I fear to do it justice would mean an airbrush and masking tape and stencils. But how very pretty it would be.

    Probably for best results, but I also know you can be a wizard with a brush so don’t fret.  A lot of people are intimidated by large open surface areas, especially when it comes to brush painting but at this scale I feel that paint jobs don’t need to be tidy as much as they need to be consistent.  Those SF3D/Ma.K guys do a heck of a lot of brush painting over large open areas and I think their secret is several thin layers (but then they weather the heck out of them!)

    Reminds me a bit of Thunderbird 2

    I can totally see that!  The initial concept though was lifted from the Ninz class from an old FASA product: Adventure Class Ships deckplans: 

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #103512
    Robert ForanRobert Foran
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    I love it, AWESOME!!!! 

    #103659
    Darkest Star GamesDarkest Star Games
    Participant

    Just heard my resin caster is closing down.  Might be an issue production wise…

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #108450
    Darkest Star GamesDarkest Star Games
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    Attempting to out compete Venturian entrepeneurs, Federation traders make extensive use of this ship, a common sight out on the more peaceful the spacelanes:Fed trader

     

    This ship (and it’s armed tender!) will be printed at the same time as the Venturian trader.  Should end up being 10 parts (Hull, Tender, 4 landing gear, 4 gear doors).  I can’t wait!

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #108451
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    Forward the Federation!

    I’ve had it in mind to do a Traveller setup at 6mm scale for a long time – maybe this will be the year I do it! I just need to find someone at the club willing to play Striker.

    #108466
    Darkest Star GamesDarkest Star Games
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    Striker will be a stretch for people into today’s games, not fast enough.  But, if your toys are shiny enough i’m sure you can snag some poor soul!

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #108469
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    Yeah, because they’re WIMPS.  But then I can’t even get people to play Dirtside, which is basically a simplified version of Striker (in a lot of ways) and yet they’ll play Campaign for North Africa.  They WILL.  I swear.  Sigh…

    #108516
    Stephen Madjanovich
    Participant

    Striker and Classic Traveller are the only options! So mr Average where are YOU located? I am north of Toronto.

    #108543
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    Alas, I’m in the Eastern USA.

    #108551
    Stephen Madjanovich
    Participant

    So right now these are just 3D models you hope to market? Then the potential source for casting fell through. That is a bummer as I would love to have Traveller equipment for 6mm available. Keep us informed if this will be going through please.

    Traveller players are far and few between anymore, at least compared to 30+ years ago. When I got back into gaming a few years back one of my primary focii was updating Striker. I started a thread on TMP but was too new to the gaming life as it has evolved since then. My passion is for fire team to squad size units preferably with a single die roll for each team/squad. Not too practical so nw I have been looking at Force on Force just as some others have looked for other potential start points. I assume Tomorrow War is FoF with high tech equipment options much like Striker is a cross between Traveller, Mega Traveller AHL and Snapshot melded together. Much though I like 2D6 it becomes awkward rolling for multiple attacks simultaneously while rolling multiple and variable dice for grouped attacks as per FoF is easier to handle. So I am looking at a variation of it as a start with a lot of Striker’s options and organizations added in.

    It would be great to be closer, of course there are always cons where we could meet! Back in the day I used to attend 3 to 6 a year.

    #108596
    Darkest Star GamesDarkest Star Games
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    So right now these are just 3D models you hope to market? Then the potential source for casting fell through. That is a bummer as I would love to have Traveller equipment for 6mm available. Keep us informed if this will be going through please.

      They are both now at the printer, hopefully will get done by the end of the month.  Caster is still a question, but I have 3 options at the moment, hoping my original guy gets going again real soon.

    Traveller players are far and few between anymore, at least compared to 30+ years ago

      There is a yearly TravellerCon you can hit.  I believe it alternates between San Francisco and the east coast.  Some of the folks that attend put on DS2 games as well as Striker and SnapShot.  I went once about 15 years ago and had a hoot.  Played in an RPG scenario for 17 hours straight, slept 4 hours, then played a fleet action for 7 hours whose result tied back to their FFW board game campaign.  Loren Weisman was there as well as some of the older authors and contributors.  Really enjoyed myself.  Give it a visit if you get the chance, good people.

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #108600
    Stephen Madjanovich
    Participant

    Nerdvanah lives!

    I think I ran across that site sometime in the past, or some other con used the same engine. It looks like I got the 2018 site which was in Pennsylvania. So I assume it will be out west this year. If in PA I will have to go.

    I am glad you are pushing forward with your ships. I only game land and air in 6mm so these will make excellent objectives if nothing else.I have never role played in 6mm, and almost never in miniature. The times I did it always devolved into a wargame.

    Found out this weekend my flying buddy (RC planes) is big into sci fi so hopefully a new recruit………..

    #108627
    Darkest Star GamesDarkest Star Games
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    I’ve done some RPG lite in 6mm, and it’s a hoot.  Sort of skirmishy, sort of RPG, using 5150.  Will put up some AARs once I get these ships done.

    Had to split the Venturian Trader hull into 2 parts lastnight after hearing from the printer that it wouldn’t fit on his best machine.  The final resin product will still be 1 piece though.

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #110169
    Stephen Madjanovich
    Participant

    DSG. I was going to do this as a PM but think others may be interested as well. Roughly when do you feel these may be available? I don’t mean what date but rather late this year, mid next, etc.. Thank you and they look excellent.

    #110284
    Darkest Star GamesDarkest Star Games
    Participant

    The prints should be ready within 2 weeks (finally got a slot!).  Getting them cast is all up to my caster, but I think I can put enough pressure on him to get them done 30days from when I hand him the models.  I’m hoping before June.

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #111610
    Darkest Star GamesDarkest Star Games
    Participant

    Prints are done!  Should be in my hands by Wednesday.  Sooo excited!  Will post pictures ASAP.

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #112409
    Darkest Star GamesDarkest Star Games
    Participant

    Prints arrived!!!!

    trader prints

    They came out great!  BUUUUUT… made a bit of a booboo with the scaling of the Federation Trader and shuttle (lower) as it is too small.  Not sure if it’s worth reprinting (expeeeeeensive too!).  I’ll get cleaning on them after vacation next week. Also still waiting on just 1 more part… (door on bottom of Venturian Trader, stair port cover)

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #112412
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    I love it, I kiss it, it’s beautiful!

    #112414
    RhodericRhoderic
    Participant

    Too small for scale, or for your canon?

    EDIT: Oops, didn’t realise there was a third vessel in the pic. Yeah, that one is quite miniscule…

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by RhodericRhoderic.
    #112419
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    The third looks to me like it could be a “downship,” a small transfer craft for shuttling around just a few personnel at “bush” colonies with limited landing facilities. Personally I’d keep it.

    #112435
    Darkest Star GamesDarkest Star Games
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    Ya, the shuttle piggybacks on the Fed Trader (it’s not a Subsidized Merchant at all, I swear!) on that little pad on the top.  I wish the main and the shuttle were both about 25% larger (at least), as the Fed ship is only as large as a deodorant shtick and I wanted it to be shampoo bottle sized (and the doors are tiny looking).  Guess there’s always room for more ships later!

    Next ships to be printed (in the few months future) will be a Varg… erm, *ahem*, Gahrrul Patrol Gunship and a Corsair!

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #112436
    Thorsten FrankThorsten Frank
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    Oh my….they look so good! :O 🙂

    You mentioned 5150 in one of your above posts – this looks like quite interesting universe. But I´m completely unsure how all those books work together – there´s very little info on how they are related. Seems to me some are an older version and some a newer. And the THW website doesn´t help either.

    "In strange grammar this one writes" - Master Yoda

    #112438
    ThomastonThomaston
    Participant

    That little shuttle had always been my favorite, since seeing it in the render. Very nice smooth prints, very interested to see how well the two halves fit. I’ll be tempted to cut it horizontally and make interiors for the ships.

    Tired is enough.

    #112439
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    Oh my….they look so good! :O 🙂 You mentioned 5150 in one of your above posts – this looks like quite interesting universe. But I´m completely unsure how all those books work together – there´s very little info on how they are related. Seems to me some are an older version and some a newer. And the THW website doesn´t help either.

    I just wish the 5150 games were better formatted and didn’t preface every sentence with “Here’s how we do it.”

    #112469
    Darkest Star GamesDarkest Star Games
    Participant

    And the THW website doesn´t help either.

    I’ll see if I can get Ed to make a synopsis or something.  The different book cover different aspects of the universe, from fleet battles and straight platoon/company sized combat engagements to skirmish and RPGlite character campaigns.  Much like Ivan does with his line there is indeed a bewildering array and even I (who does some writing for THW) have a hard time keeping track!.  I generally use the base mechanics and stuff my own details in.

    These minis will also be featuring in a Traveller campaign later in the year, out in beyond District 268 and 5 sisters.

    That little shuttle had always been my favorite, since seeing it in the render. Very nice smooth prints, very interested to see how well the two halves fit. I’ll be tempted to cut it horizontally and make interiors for the ships.

      I like the shuttle too.  It’s going to look tiny next to the fighters I am working on though, which is another reason to maybe get it reprinted…

    I don’t think you’ll be able to build interiors for these guys, the production models are going to be solid resin!  The build plate for the printer wasn’t large enough to do it in one go so that’s why it’s in 2 parts.  Wish they could be caste hollow though, that’d save on shipping and materiel big time!

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #112472
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    Would that you could slice them horizontally and reveal a cutaway “deck” interior! Would have to be a prohibitive 15mm scale but still.

    O how the mind wanders.

    #112473
    Darkest Star GamesDarkest Star Games
    Participant

    I have experimented with 3d printed ships with interiors, but they become multi-deck very quickly and that can become an issues, as well as the lack of space to actually place and move minis around once furniture and accessories are installed, especially as most ships will not be very roomy…

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #126024
    Darkest Star GamesDarkest Star Games
    Participant

    Finally, FINALLY have these ships off to the caster.  Had to reprint a couple of parts that were to flimsy and broke while cleaning.  Slight redesign and they are now good to go!  There is also a 3rd ship that is being printed right now, a Garruhl patrol gunship.  Pix when it arrives.

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #126052
    Stephen Madjanovich
    Participant

    How does one spell the “oh goody goody” with hand wringing properly? As a long time Traveller and 6mm fan I am more than amused.

    #126053
    telzy ambertelzy amber
    Participant

    I’m very interested in your boats and the Var… uh, I mean Garruhl. They are beautiful.

    • This reply was modified 11 months, 3 weeks ago by telzy ambertelzy amber. Reason: spelling
    #126081
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    Where are my “Striker” rulebooks…?

    #126116
    Stephen Madjanovich
    Participant

    Where are my “Striker” rulebooks…?

    Both copies, and another 100 rules are right here in my basement and computer!

    #126374
    Ali Dogan SayinerAli Dogan Sayiner
    Participant

    Lovely ships 🙂

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    #133068
    Stephen Madjanovich
    Participant

    So what is the story? Are these available (I can’t find them on your site), in development or ?

    #133100
    Darkest Star GamesDarkest Star Games
    Participant

    Not yet available.  The Venturian ship collapsed while making the mold in the vacuum chamber and needed to be reprinted with a thicker wall (which was expensive!).  It arrived the other day, I just need to clean the print and get it to the caster when he is available.  I wish I had printed both of them about 10%, but they are supposed to be window dressing, not scale models…  I will update as soon as I have a release time, which I hope is reeeeeeally soon!

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #133114
    Stephen Madjanovich
    Participant

    That sucks. I hope all goes well in the next attempt.

    Thirty something years ago I made masters of a handful of 1/285 planes for Chris Croissant of Croissant and In Service miniatures. The last one I made, and the best shape wise was an SU-24. His process was to use the master to make a lost wax mold. Then fire the mold melting out the sytrene the master was made of. Guess which mold broke during firing! The other 6 tuned out OK but crude as I was just learning. Even the half dozen missiles came out. He never produced more than the ones he sent me as samples as I needed to build up skills.

    He sold the business soon after due to personal reasons and last I heard he had moved to Oregon or Washington state. I would love to get in touch and see how he is doing. He was a great guy.

    #134735
    Stephen Madjanovich
    Participant

    Is it soon yet? I am repeating myself as Khurasan has also posted 6mm projects (especially a drop ship) on LAF and I said the same thing. Still waiting for soon to come by……….. I have painting time………..

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