A Bunch of 10mm Modern Troops Finished

[Just Jack]

All,

I was able to make the past weekend quite productive from a painting and basing standpoint, primarily in support of my upcoming modern Imagi-Nation (or at least Alternate History), “Cuba Libre.” Here are some teasers:

Some of Mrs. Thatcher’s Green-Eyed Boys, from Pendraken.

The new Argentinian .50 cal HMG.

Some Minifigs WarPac Special Forces.

And a Pendraken NVA 12.7mm HMG for my Irregulars.

Lots of stuff going on, and lots more forces and terrain, with about 50 more pictures on the blog at:
http://blackhawkhet.blogspot.com/2015/05/more-forces-for-cuba-libre.html

V/R,
Jack

[Ivan Sorensen]

Locked and loaded 🙂

Digging the red berets, bet they look striking on a big tabletop.

[kyoteblue]

Jack has been busy !!!! I just did a little painting and base flocking this past week or two but did post some pics of my 15mm Ottoman Turks I’ve had 20 years or so.

Now I just need some AAR’s….

[Rod Robertson]

Just Jack:

Things are look’in good! Keep up the good work and I look forward to you next AAR, whatever period and genre it might cover.

Cheers and good gaming.

Rod Robertson.

[JozisTinMan]

They look great!  Sorry I have been quiet, got our oldest married off, now trying to recover.

I look forward to see battle reports with them!

http://jozistinman.blogspot.com/

[Whirlwind]

Nice! I love that slightly “toy soldier” style…looking forward to seeing them in an AAR.

[Just Jack]

Thanks guys, I appreciate it!  I’m hoping to get them on the table this weekend, just need to get some admin stuff out of the way for the campaign.

I’m looking at playing smaller, even faster games, with simple terrain and OOBs.  Quick, dramatic, and decisive.

And congratulations, Tin Man, hope it was great!

V/R,
Jack

[Ivan Sorensen]

In a few months, Jack will be playing with 1 figure on each side and a small palm tree in hte middle of a 3×3″ battle field 🙂

[kyoteblue]

Now now Weasel, Just Jack , likes putting pretty shiny toys on the table….

[Just Jack]

You can kiss a duck, Commie! 😉

I’m actually going to do up some force generation tables of my own, going from 4 rifles and a support up to 7 rifles and 3 supports.  Just need to figure out the best way to go about it.  So everything will be between 5 and 10 elements, not including the command stand.  I’m going to play on a 2 x 2 or 2 x 3, and simplify the terrain a little bit, to aid in getting the table setup and broken down more quickly.

And thanks Kyote, at least someone’s looking out around here 😉

Now hurry up with your modern batrep, and I’m hoping you’re heading to Ifat.

V/R,
Jack

[Ivan Sorensen]

Wargaming according to the five year plan 🙂

1D3+3 rifles, 1D3 supports.

If you get 6 rifles, roll 1D6, a 5+ gives you one extra squad.

[kyoteblue]

I was planning to do Team Rebel, Stopping The Red Tide before going back to Ifat.

[Shaun Travers]

Interesting you brought up going to less figures – although I have yet to play the rules, I always thought that it would work best with around 10-ish units on the table. This is less than you have been playing so far, so will be very interested to see if it gives a “better” (probably better = faster!) game.  Better could also equal easier to manage to play too!  So now you have effectively promised a smaller game by writing it down, you now have to follow through.  Take you time though, between you and I (especially you!), I think we have AARs completely covered 🙂 Although kyote is posting some great pictures, and Panda did slipped in a few pictures and text but it is only part 1 so does not count…

And welcome to the 2’x2′ crowd (and 2’x3′ at a stretch – I play lots of ancient face to face on 2’x3′).  I have said nothing over the last few years, but 3’x3′ – come on, you are not being serious about small sized games!  And I am not saying this out of jealously, no really I am not.  And if the map drawers I play in could take 3’x3′, I am sure I would still have started with 2’x2′. Yeah, right 🙂

 

[Just Jack]

Ivan – And that’s why YOU”RE the rules writer.  Wow, I had something much more complicated than that…

Kyote – Then go forth and stop the Red Tide!  I look forward to some batreps, plural 😉

Shaun – Don’t sweat it, I shall be following through.  I’m setting a goal of three fights in Cuba this weekend, on the small board with smaller forces (as outlined above).  Sometimes better does equal faster, at least to me.  For Cuba Libre, I really want it focused on the personalities, almost like an RPG; if you haven’t seen what I’m talking about, check this out:
http://www.blackhawkhet.blogspot.com/2013/09/cla-ground-forces-organizationleadership.html

I’ll flog myself later for thinking 3 x 3 was a true small-table game 😉  And I saw your Ancients batrep; looked like a hell of a fight between Testiclees and Fallacio 😉

V/R,
Jack

[kyoteblue]

DBA and HOTT both play on a 2×2  I still have my home made DBA boards.

[Shaun Travers]

See Jack, even Kyote has seen the light and plays (well ok, used to play) on 2’x2′ table!  I have been thinking for a while 2’x2′ is too big, and looking at doing ancients on a 1’x1′.  I have changed my rules to suit, just have not played.  If I post enough ancient battreps, maybe Jack will see the light.  Of course, if he plays enough moderns, I may be forced to (re)start play them!

[Just Jack]

1 x 1!!!???  Good grief, Shaun.  I think you’ll need to go to 3mm (which several around here have shown can be quite lovely).

I bet you’ll get into moderns before I get into ancients; I just don’t ‘get’ ancients…

Hope all is well.

V/R,
Jack

[Ivan Sorensen]

I’ve been working on 3mm figures for Company COmmander / Crossfire and I imagine they’d fit on a 1×1 board 🙂

[kyoteblue]

3mm !!! The horror !!!

[Just Jack]

Commissar – You need to check your TMP PMs, and you owe Panda an e-mail; you’re slowing down the war effort!

 

And there’s nothing wrong with 3mm, Kyote; I’m actually looking forward to seeing Ivan’s, assuming he’s a real wargamer and will post pics if he actually carries out a battle 😉

V/R,
Jack

[Ivan Sorensen]

I just sent my orders. I know for a Marine it’s faster, since there’s only two options: Forward and Forward with Bayonets 🙂

I didn’t get a notification for a message on [that other site]. I’ll go check.

[kyoteblue]

I’m sure Weasel is a real war gamer……and at 3mm you could just use card board counters….

[Ivan Sorensen]

Tell you what, email me your address and I’ll mail you a few left over 3mm figures I have, just so you can see them.

[kyoteblue]

Jonathan Keepers

6281 Landers Ct.

El Reno OK, 73036

[Rod Robertson]

Gentlemen:

I have read all your comments and I have come to a decision. Kyoteblue is right. 15mm is the only civilized scale to wargame WWII and Post-WWII small unit actions. 6mm is appropriate for large unit actions. 10mm is tolerable but barley so and 3mm is absurd (sorry Ivan) because it is always nice to see the miniatures your gaming with. So there you have it, I have spoken excathedra and thus it must be so. Even though I am up to my I balls in work, I will be goofing off tonight and painting minis, 15mm of course.

Jack, It looks like you have highjacked a significant chunk of three generations of Hollywood to people your Cuba Libre campaign, but where are Fidel, Che and Raoul. Don’t the baddies get faces too? Hola amigo y viva la revolucion! How do you make upside-down exclamation marks on TWW?

Cheers and good gaming.

Rod Robertson

[Shaun Travers]

Last year I played 1’x1′ with my 15mm ancients (with my daughter) using Neil Thomas’s One Hour Wargames rules.  I think 6mm will not look too bad, nor 15mm for a small game.  well, look not any worse than on a 2’x2′!  3mm?  I would go 2mm for ancients!  And with my eyes, 6mm is starting to look like bumpy cardboard counters to me.

[Rod Robertson]

Shaun:

It’s a fine line between war gaming and Braille when your talking 2 and 3mm minis! You might as well sit back and imagine the battle, rather than going to the trouble of painting these micro-miniatures!

Cheers.

Rod Robertson.

[Rod Robertson]

Jack:

You really ought to give ancient miniature war gaming a chance. It’s great fun and very colorful to paint. But back to Cuba Libre!

cheers.

Rod Robertson.

[Ivan Sorensen]

Now it’s becoming clear you are both talking out of your butts 🙂

3mm figures next to ASL counters.

[kyoteblue]

So just a tad bigger than a ASL counter….

[Shaun Travers]

..and from 3 feet away, it would be hard to tell the difference.  I find it hard with 6mm!

[Ivan Sorensen]

You people are killing me.:)

[Shaun Travers]

It all comes down to eyesight.  A few of us don’t have great of it 🙂

[Just Jack]

I’m with Ivan, you guys are full of it.  The beauty of playing 3mm is that you’re not 3 feet away from it, you’re sitting down right next to it and you can see everything.

Israeli M-48s on pennies.

A Marine Cobra.

Individual infantry.

HMMWVs, with TOWs in front and HMGs in rear.

3mm is great; I really wish I had Tin Man’s setup.

V/R,
Jack

[kyoteblue]

Could I just use penny’s……It would be a cheap army.

[Ivan Sorensen]

Im doing some on bingo chits, which are about penny sized.

Two strips of infantry or one tank fits on one.
The infantry look a tad crowded that way, but I wanted them to actually have a full squad on each.

[War Panda]

LoL …this is hilarious …

 

I love the way Ivan plays his trump card card by posting photos that provide the damning evidence that 3mm are astoundingly better than mere cardboard tokens and Blue has the gall to respond :”

“So just a tad bigger than a ASL counter….”

and then Shaun with the coup de grace

“..and from 3 feet away, it would be hard to tell the difference.”

Oh how I laughted 😀

If its any consolation Ivan I found this video of Shaun putting away his “ancients back in their box”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OBDf_h5VkM

 

 

“The great Gaels of Ireland are the men that God made mad,
For all their wars are merry, and all their songs are sad.”

[Shaun Travers]

Yeah, yeah, ha ha ha.  I don’t have 2mm ancients, but am thinking of them.  If I did gt them, I would probably put them away like Scrooge!

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