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[Paskal]

Hello everyone

What are the 25/30 mm figures that exist to play the 43rd foot from 1739 to 1745 ?

Later

Breton

[OB]

Try these

http://www.frontrank.com/product-category/18th-century/jacobite-rebellion-1745/government-army-jacobite-rebellion-1745/

OB
http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/

[Paskal]

Thank you

What I want to know too,
It was when this regiment had a company of grenadiers?

In 1751, when it was no longer the 43rd?

Later

Breton

[OB]

Sorry, I don’t know the answer but if you want grenadiers too then look at these.

http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/proddetail.asp?prod=FIW-14&cat=250

 

OB
http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/

[General Slade]

Hi Breton,

Have you checked the Kronoskaf Seven Years War website? You will find some information on the history of the regiment there: http://www.kronoskaf.com/syw/index.php?title=42nd_Foot

I’m not certain when British battalions were organised into 1 grenadier and 9 battalion companies but the Royal Clothing Warrant of 1751 lists details of the grenadier caps for the ‘Highland Regiment’ (which I assume is the 42nd): http://www.fifedrum.org/crfd/1751.htm so it seems they had a grenadier company by 1751 if not before.

[Paskal]

Yes in this regiment, there is no question of grenadiers before 1751, but at this time the 43rd has already become the 42nd, it is weird …

[Paskal]

According to Stephen Manley, there were two regular regiments of Highlanders during the WAS, the 43rd (from 42nd in 1748) and 64th …

The two regiments of a single battalion of ten companies, on wich was grenadiers, and at full strength would have fielded about 750 men apiece.

The tartan is that of the government with in supplement a red stripe for the grenadiers.

Grenadiers had commencd by wearing miter caps, apparently of the usual type, though neither an example or a picture survives. By 1744 the fur cap had come into use.

Their caps were of black bearskin with the section of the front being red and white like the caps of the line.

Later

[OB]

Red stripe in the grenadier tartan, that’s useful to know.

OB
http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/

[Paskal]

Yes !

Red in the waeve- both ways it is an overstripe in the pattern…

[General Slade]

There is an interesting article here about the Government Tartan: http://www.tartansauthority.com/resources/archives/the-archives/scobie/the-government-tartan/

The author, William Scobie, refers in passing to “A painting by the artist David Morier which shows a Grenadier of the 42nd wearing a plaid ‘in a dark tartan with flecks of red'” and I assume this is the painting he is referring to:

However, unless I am mis-reading things. Scobie does seem somewhat dubious about the accuracy of this image.

There is another article by Scobie on the Black Watch tartan here: http://www.tartansauthority.com/research/tartan-spotlight/the-black-watch-tartan/

[Paskal]

Thank you and congratulations for the links and the beautiful photo, but for the 43rd, it was maybe and certainly different and there is not much to find.

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