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    Mark Morin
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    Locked down…but not out!

     

    The Aztec project’s next chapter – Eagle Warriors:

    Aztec Eagle Warriors from Tin Soldier UK

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    Mark,

    Just thought I’d mention how much I’m enjoying your blog.

    Years ago I went through an Aztec phase. At the time (mid-80s ?), precious few manufacturers made Aztecs. I’d gotten Tin Soldier, Miriliton, Ral Partha and Naismith figures which, for the time, were all pretty nice. Lately, they’ve been calling me. I’ve got about 120 in total, about half painted. I’ve got some old photos here: https://sites.google.com/site/petiteguerre/galleries/aztecs .

    And, if you’ve not seen it there is a great thread on Lead Adventure Forum (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=115157.0 ). The author, Huron34 really knows his stuff.

    Keep it coming!

    Self taught, persistently behind the times, never up to date. AKA ~ jeff
    More verbosity: http://petiteguerre.blogspot.com/

    #135757
    Mark Morin
    Participant

    Mark, Just thought I’d mention how much I’m enjoying your blog. Years ago I went through an Aztec phase. At the time (mid-80s ?), precious few manufacturers made Aztecs. I’d gotten Tin Soldier, Miriliton, Ral Partha and Naismith figures which, for the time, were all pretty nice. Lately, they’ve been calling me. I’ve got about 120 in total, about half painted. I’ve got some old photos here: https://sites.google.com/site/petiteguerre/galleries/aztecs . And, if you’ve not seen it there is a great thread on Lead Adventure Forum (http://leadadventureforum.com/index.php?topic=115157.0 ). The author, Huron34 really knows his stuff. Keep it coming!

     

    Man oh man what great resources – thanks for sharing them.  I saved them as favorites and will be referring to them as well.  Really liked the stuff on your blog.

     

    I see you mentioned Arrow Knights and I am painting a group of them next – and like you I have not seen much as to pics as references.  They are the old Ral Partha figs from 1988 – after these I am on to Wargames Foundry and Outpost Wargames 28mm figs (138 to be exact).  I wrote an Aztec/Maya/Inca/Conquistadores supplement which I will use to game them.

     

    Much appreciate the feedback – very kind and very helpful.

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    Ah, the mysterious Arrow Knights. I don’t recall where I read it but it turns out they may be entirely fictitious. There was an early 20th century artist (with a German name IIRC- Hoffman?) who drew an ‘Arrow Knight’ as well as an ‘Eagle’ and ‘Jaguar’ knights. He may have completely misinterpreted what he was using as sources and he certainly oversimplified Aztec military society. But… his images have been used over and over and they captured the public imagination.

    There’s been a lot more research done showing the complexity of Aztec military society and its symbols since those drawings were made. The simplistic view of three ‘knightly orders’, though, does appeal to war gamers and figure manufacturers. Yet another rabbit hole to explore!

    Self taught, persistently behind the times, never up to date. AKA ~ jeff
    More verbosity: http://petiteguerre.blogspot.com/

    #135778
    Mike
    Keymaster

    Cool. I was unaware of the method for shaft thickening/strengthening.

    #135794
    Mark Morin
    Participant

    Ah, the mysterious Arrow Knights. I don’t recall where I read it but it turns out they may be entirely fictitious. There was an early 20th century artist (with a German name IIRC- Hoffman?) who drew an ‘Arrow Knight’ as well as an ‘Eagle’ and ‘Jaguar’ knights. He may have completely misinterpreted what he was using as sources and he certainly oversimplified Aztec military society. But… his images have been used over and over and they captured the public imagination. There’s been a lot more research done showing the complexity of Aztec military society and its symbols since those drawings were made. The simplistic view of three ‘knightly orders’, though, does appeal to war gamers and figure manufacturers. Yet another rabbit hole to explore!

    Yes, the research on those has proven to be difficult.  My next painting project will be a 6-figure blister from Ral Partha circa 1988 – 42-305 “Aztec Arrow Knights”.  Basically dudes with long feathered javelins.  Historically accurate – well at this point who’s to say – not in any of the codices or not clear at best.  So first, I will paint them as I have them and it seems reasonable that a feathered long arrow/long darts/javelin-like-armed elite unit could be possible.  Maybe just super big atl-atl?  It would be fun on the table, and given the relative paucity of information I think it would be fine.  I’m planning on them having two long arrows with one held for melee like a spear.  Now the SECOND question is – how to paint them and would they have shields with two of these long suckers to carry?  Your thoughts?

    #135796
    Mark Morin
    Participant

    Cool. I was unaware of the method for shaft thickening/strengthening.

     

    Thanks – I just extrapolated the concept of rebar and concrete – though lead is no steel!

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