15/04/2018 at 14:21 #88713
I’ve been considering the new 10mm Aztec range from Pendraken. I have no great desire to start a new period en-masse but I do really fancy painting these in small numbers but my knowledge of Aztec warfare is limited so I have some queries.
Can anyone offer advice on which figures might work for Mixtec/Zatopec, Tarascan and Purempecha (Chichimec) armies – particularly the latter, as no ‘warrior’ archers are included in the range. Any Pendraken range or compatible manufacturer would do. I’m aware of some similarities between the armies (in appearance at least) but there still seem to be gaps when the similarities are taken into account (including bowmen as mentioned above and also shield bearers with large rectangular shields).
As it doesn’t fit in with any other period I do at present I need some rules. I have found some dating back a while that seem to be a bit of a fusion between DBA & DBR (New World DBA) but would like something a bit more focussed on the native warfare as I have no interest in adding Spanish to the mix.
I’m looking for small battle / large skirmish type, multiple figure bases and some good ‘flavour’. I’m not interested in individual based skirmish rules or any that require tons of figures but somewhere between the two. Ideally they would be specifically written for early South American warfare but can’t find any such beast so probably have to manage with a non-specific set.
Tony of TTT15/04/2018 at 15:09 #88716
I’ve not played these rules but if I ever restart my Aztec/Conquistador project(s) they’re on my short list. The description seems to match your requirements. Most reviews I’ve read seem positive.
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I looked at IW but, like so many that mention South American warfare in this period, they are basically colonial rules. Looking at the troops types there is only one native troop type so they are hardly likely to make for an interesting game with that limitation. At least in DBX I have at least 5 to chose from, even though I’m not convinced they will do the job all that well either.
May get a PDF copy of the rules as they might be useful in a different context for a project a mate is thinking about so thanks for the pointer.16/04/2018 at 13:08 #88776
There is an Aztec version of Lion Rampant that might do you. I’ll see if I can find a link.
The various troop types would be simple enough to slot into the existing categories of the original rules for that matter. Make your Jaguar knights etc dismounted knights, Cuachics as veteran sergeants, warriors as warband and skirmishers as bidowers.
For Tlaxcalla the main Aztec opponent a smaller number of knights, a unit or two of superior archers, more ordinary archers. Otomi who fought on both sides could sergeants with schiltron or veteran sergeants as they were thought tough troops.
Pendraken Aztec packs 5,7,8 might do for Tlaxcalla in 10mm. For Chichimecs any figure with long hair and in a loin cloth with sling, spear, or club would do.
- This reply was modified 3 months ago by OB.
http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/16/04/2018 at 18:48 #88805
This was also suggested on another forum and I’m afraid I just don’t like that type of generic rules with individual basing & buckets of dice.
Thanks for the figure ideas though – just need to find something that fits the bill – which is proving to be harder than I thought.17/04/2018 at 00:43 #88821
Try a look at shieldless 10mm Biblicals maybe for Chicimecs. I think you might be out of luck with Tarascan or Zapotec substitutes.
There’s no avoiding throwing 12 dice a unit with LR variants at least until they reach half strength or long range. You can though base the figures on a one, two , three system and many do.
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