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  • #90349
    Victoria Dickson
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    I got some Renaissance figures from Black Hat Miniatures.  I love the pikemen but I have  a problem with the crossbowmen.

    They cast them with the crossbows sideways, looking sort of like a normal bow.  I assume there has to be an easy way to turn them so they look like a damn crossbow, but so far I have four ruined figures (end of crossbow snapped off) and only two useable ones.  Anyone else used their crossbowmen and have a foolproof way of doing it?

    These are the figures:

     

    #90352
    Mike
    Keymaster

    hmmm, are you twisting them or cutting them off and then sticking them back on the correct way round?

    #90353
    Angel Barracks
    Moderator

    Maybe they are gangster?

    #90355
    kyoteblue
    Participant

    You have to gently bend them…and sometimes they will still snap off. One of those sucky things that happen.

    #90356
    Victoria Dickson
    Participant

    Twisting them, which lost an arm of the crossbow on one of them, took the whole thing off on another and gave me two that seemed ok till I went to undercoat them, where the touch of the brush was enough to see them fall off.

     

     

    #90357
    Victoria Dickson
    Participant

    You have to gently bend them…and sometimes they will still snap off. One of those sucky things that happen.

    Thanks, I’ll do the best I can with them and recruit the rest of the crossbowmen I need from other suppliers. 🙂

    #90360
    kyoteblue
    Participant

    I like Essex figures for crossbowmen.

    #90361
    OB
    Participant

    Sadly a common experience, the snapping, not Essex which are nice.

    I suppose you could slice off the bow arc and stick it back on using a minute ball of green stuff.  I’ve done that but it’s a fiddle and you need to use more of the harder medium in the mix so the sodding thing doesn’t fall off again.  It does work though.

    Or just make a new bow arc from green stuff, much easier than it sounds and it saves wasting figures.  If you want to add the stirrup in the centre just stick a ball of green stuff in place and pierce it with a point. flatten it a bit in about 20 minutes.

    OB
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    #90379
    General Slade
    Participant

    Minifigs do their crossbowmen the same way.  You might have some luck if you warm the figures gently before you twist them.  I find holding them up to an old-fashioned light bulb  is quite a good way to do it but putting them in hot water would probably work as well.

    #90387
    Victoria Dickson
    Participant

    Thanks for the tips. 🙂

    #90410
    Cerdic
    Participant

    I think using heat before you twist could be the answer (ooo, er, missus, etc!). Maybe try getting a hairdryer on them?

    #90411
    Not Connard Sage
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    It think it depends on the casting metal.

    I didn’t have any problem with the Minifigs** Hussite crossbowmen I bought in the early 199os as the metal was quite malleable. I twisted 48 of the little bugger’s weapons through 90 degrees and didn’t lose one.

    That’s not much help I know 🙂

     

     

     

     

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    #90433

    Well, that’s an unfortunate design decision. Earlier figures (as in during the 1990s) would have been somewhere around 60% lead and much more malleable. Contemporary figures tend to have little or no lead and can be quite brittle.

    For these particular figures I’d cut off the bow arms, file a groove across the top of the stock and glue a short piece of curved wire into the groove. I can’t tell for certain, but it looks to me as if the stock is positioned appropriately and that the bow arms emerge from the top/bottom of the stock. That’s just wrong.

    BTW, that’s ‘gangsta,’ not ‘gangster.’ 😉

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    #90447
    kyoteblue
    Participant

    What rules are you going to use with your 15 mm crossbowmen Victoria?

    #90448
    Victoria Dickson
    Participant

    What rules are you going to use with your 15 mm crossbowmen Victoria?

    I’m planning on trying Furiosa from Alternative Armies.  I bought the rule book and the supplement after I saw them advertised on here, actually.  I was tempted by the thought of scratchbuilding Leonardo’s ‘wondrous inventions’ and having renaissance battles with air support and tanks…

    Plus fighting more historical ones too, obviously. 

    I’ve given the rules a quick scan, it’ll be ages before I get enough figures painted up for even a tiny battle so I’ve plenty of time to familiarise myself with them.  They look a bit complex but I’m not letting that scare me off. 🙂

    If Furiosa doesn’t work out I have other options, the figures won’t go to waste and it’s a fun period to paint.  (Meanwhile I’m considering another side project in a completely different period, very small number of figures but in a larger scale to let me see if I can paint them to a decent standard, I’m in full butterfly mode now  )

    #90449
    Etranger
    Participant

    Well, that’s an unfortunate design decision. Earlier figures (as in during the 1990s) would have been somewhere around 60% lead and much more malleable. Contemporary figures tend to have little or no lead and can be quite brittle.

    For these particular figures I’d cut off the bow arms, file a groove across the top of the stock and glue a short piece of curved wire into the groove. I can’t tell for certain, but it looks to me as if the stock is positioned appropriately and that the bow arms emerge from the top/bottom of the stock. That’s just wrong.

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    Probably a decision based on ease of casting. That is a good fix though.

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    #90451
    kyoteblue
    Participant

    I know about butterfly periods I just bought Rebel Miniatures 15 mm Grey Aliens and Cthulhu Pulp.No idea how I’m going to use either!!

     

    #90461
    Victoria Dickson
    Participant

    Don’t get me started, I was looking at the Rebel Minis pulp and steampunk adventurers yesterday, soooooooooooo tempted lol

    #123419
    Rob Vega
    Participant

    Maybe they are gangster?

    LOL Goofball!

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