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04/11/2019 at 23:11 #125912Just JackParticipant
Thomaston, you are killing me! Kyote, thanks for someone finally being on my side! 😉
“Why did the bombers turn back? Was it a roll or was it part of the historical event?”
I do morale rolls every now and again, after seeing Whirlwind John doing it with his rules. I like it better than everyone always fighting to the death, though I will admit that bombers have to roll pretty low in order to be forced to fall back, which is why you don’t see it very often.Regarding ‘historical event,’ unlike Coral Sea, where I tried to mimic real life very closely in terms of the dates/times, the Chickenhawks in New Guinea is not based on anything more historical than the fact that the US had fighters stationed in New Guinea at this time (May 1942), everything else is just free-flowing, rolling dice to determine what the mission is (Combat Air Patrol, Escort, or Fighter Sweep) and who’s involved (my patented squadron rosters, which are rolled on to see who’s in the fight).
“My prediction, next fight Daniel will get shot down.”
How much would you care to wager? You can call me ‘Justjackadamus,’ I promise I won’t cheat 😉
Actually, I’ve already played out games 4-9, will post as I get around to writing them up. But no, Lt Daniel doesn’t get shot down next fight.V/R,
Jack04/11/2019 at 23:40 #125916kyoteblueParticipantI’m always on your side Jack…I just like historical tactics. Looking for more fights as ya post them.
05/11/2019 at 14:37 #125955Just JackParticipantI’m not so sure 😉
In any case, next fight coming right up.
V/R,
Jack05/11/2019 at 14:50 #125958Just JackParticipantAll,
1130 local time
18 May 1942
New GuineaGreetings all, having just wrapped up the Coral Sea battles, I figured it’s time to head back to my U.S. Army Air Corps fighter squadron, the 565th Tactical Fighter Squadron, better known as the “Chickenhawks.” The last we saw of the Chickenhawks was back in February of 1942; they’d started out fighting the Japanese over the Dutch East Indies before falling back to Australia and becoming embroiled in the fighting over Darwin. After things quieted down there, they ended up moving over to Brisbane, where they had a quiet period of daily patrolling to bring in replacements and get them trained up. But they got word at the end of April that they’d be moving soon, and immediately after the Battle of Coral Sea they packed up and shipped out, heading up to Port Moresby on New Guinea, making Kila Kila Airfield, AKA “3 Mile Drome,” their new home on 11 May 1942. They only had a couple days before they were called to action.
On 13 May, Captain Cotton led six P-40s against four Zeros and six Bettys. One Zero and one Betty were downed at the cost of three P-40s and 25/30 damage points on the New Guinea Harbor Facilities.
On 14 May, Captain Goode led a depleted flight of only four P-40s up against four Zeros and six Bettys, and it was an unmitigated disaster. All four US fighters were shot down, with Captain Goode and Lt O’Brien killed in action, while the enemy didn’t lose a single aircraft! The Japanese bombers quickly finished off the Harbor Facilities, and pounded the Marshalling Area (22/30 damage points).
On 16 May, Major Jordan led the squadron aloft to intercept six Bettys escorted by four Zeros, but Lt Daniel was the star of the show. The Americans lost a single P-40, but they knocked down two Zeros and four Bettys, with Lt Daniel knocking down four of those aircraft and winning the Distinguished Flying Cross. The remaining two Japanese bombers jettisoned their bombs and returned to base, so no bombs fell on the Allied Marshalling Area (still 22/30).
Now it’s 18 May, with bad weather yesterday putting a stop to flight operations, but today is sunny and so the Americans are not only flying, but they’re playing offense! 1st Lt Pace is leading a flight of four P-40s, which are escorting six B-25 Mitchells. They’re plan is to cross the spine of the island and strike enemy installations on the northern coast of New Guinea. First up are the Japanese POL storage areas, then the Warehouse Yard, and finally the airfield at Wewak.
How ’bout them Mitchells? First time I’ve had them on the table. Let’s hope they’re a good omen.
“Heads up, Chickenhawks, five Zekes inbound. Tally Ho!”
A P-40 goes down (bottom left), and the Japanese fighters are swarming into the bomber formation.
And the foxes are definitely in amongst the hens…
But the Yank escorts aren’t completely worthless.To see how the fight went, please check the blog at:
https://oldleadbreed.blogspot.com/2019/11/chickenhawks-over-new-guinea-4.htmlNext up, a couple two-ship patrols run into each other over No Man’s Land, coming right up.
V/R,
Jack05/11/2019 at 15:25 #125968Darkest Star GamesParticipantThose bombers took a beating. Guess they were too shook up to make solid runs. At least the good guys racked up some kills!
"I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."
05/11/2019 at 18:24 #125984Just JackParticipantYeah, kind of a rough first outing for the B-25s, but they took down two Zeros themselves! Can’t bomb worth a @#$% though…
V/R,
Jack05/11/2019 at 19:39 #125992kyoteblueParticipantWowzer all the Zeros shot down!!!!
06/11/2019 at 01:58 #126005Just JackParticipantYup, things are looking up 😉
Jack
06/11/2019 at 04:26 #126007kyoteblueParticipantHistorically the Japanese air groups were not rotated in and out of action so sooner or later all their best pilots got shot down. I still feel for those B-25 crews.
06/11/2019 at 09:09 #126009Deleted UserMemberYou said before how your pilots always miss a perfect tail shot. Looks like the dice god is turning things around.
Not a good day for the IJN.06/11/2019 at 13:06 #126015Just JackParticipantKyote – Yup, that’s what I was saying earlier, the US gets its butt kicked early on, then the tide turns as they get better pilots and aircraft (then, many more of them!), as the Japanese lose pilots and aircraft they can’t replace.
Thomaston – Yeah, the Japanese have been missing their share of tail shots as well.
V/R,
Jack
06/11/2019 at 13:24 #126016Just JackParticipantAll,
1130 local time
19 May 1942
New GuineaGreetings all, having just wrapped up the Coral Sea battles, I figured it’s time to head back to my U.S. Army Air Corps fighter squadron, the 565th Tactical Fighter Squadron, better known as the “Chickenhawks.” The last we saw of the Chickenhawks was back in February of 1942; they’d started out fighting the Japanese over the Dutch East Indies before falling back to Australia and becoming embroiled in the fighting over Darwin. After things quieted down there, they ended up moving over to Brisbane, where they had a quiet period of daily patrolling to bring in replacements and get them trained up. But they got word at the end of April that they’d be moving soon, and immediately after the Battle of Coral Sea they packed up and shipped out, heading up to Port Moresby on New Guinea, making Kila Kila Airfield, AKA “3 Mile Drome,” their new home on 11 May 1942. They only had a couple days before they were called to action.
On 13 May, Captain Cotton led six P-40s against four Zeros and six Bettys. One Zero and one Betty were downed at the cost of three P-40s and 25/30 damage points on the New Guinea Harbor Facilities.
On 14 May, Captain Goode led a depleted flight of only four P-40s up against four Zeros and six Bettys, and it was an unmitigated disaster. All four US fighters were shot down, with Captain Goode and Lt O’Brien killed in action, while the enemy didn’t lose a single aircraft! The Japanese bombers quickly finished off the Harbor Facilities, and pounded the Marshalling Area (22/30 damage points).
On 16 May, Major Jordan led the squadron aloft to intercept six Bettys escorted by four Zeros, but Lt Daniel was the star of the show. The Americans lost a single P-40, but they knocked down two Zeros and four Bettys, with Lt Daniel knocking down four of those aircraft and winning the Distinguished Flying Cross. The remaining two Japanese bombers jettisoned their bombs and returned to base, so no bombs fell on the Allied Marshalling Area (st ill 22/30).
On 18 May, 1st Lt Pace led a flight of four P-40s on escort duty for six B-25 Mitchells detailed to pound Wewak’s POL storage tanks. They met five Zeros over the target, with all five being shot down, though two of those were actually by the bomber crews, who took heavy losses. While the Chickenhawks only lost one P-40, four of the six bombers were shot down, and they barely scratched the POL target (6/30 damage points).
Now it’s 19 May and two patrols have run into each other over No Man’s Land. Captain Cotton is leading a two-ship section when a Japanese two-ship section is spotted.
The US patrol, from top:
2nd Lt Lageman, a Regular
Captain Cotton, a VeteranVersus:
The Japanese patrol, from top:
Zero 01, a Veteran
Zero 02, a Regular
A quick and dirty fight. Swing by the blog and check it out at:
https://oldleadbreed.blogspot.com/2019/11/chickenhawks-over-new-guinea-5.html?m=1Next up on the docket is another US bomber escort mission, coming right up.
V/R,
Jack06/11/2019 at 15:03 #126019Darkest Star GamesParticipantPretty even fight there, and results as such. Lots of great maneuvering though, those reverses work great!
"I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."
06/11/2019 at 20:24 #126042Deleted UserMember2 vs 1 Lageman was pushing his luck.
06/11/2019 at 23:27 #126047kyoteblueParticipantNice little action another Japanese pilot lost. the odds are starting to turn on the Japanese.
07/11/2019 at 03:31 #126056Just JackParticipantDarby – Yeah man. It probably didn’t look like much, but that game was a lot of fun, lots of maneuver/counter-maneuver.
Thomaston – Yeah, he probably should have broke off, but I figured, why not go for it? 😉
Kyote – Yeah, those first two fights were really just bad luck/dice rolls for the Yanks.
V/R,
Jack07/11/2019 at 06:22 #126059kyoteblueParticipantLooking for the Chickenhawks to get some more kills next game.
07/11/2019 at 13:12 #126084Just JackParticipantWe’ll see, posting soon.
Jack
07/11/2019 at 13:27 #126087Just JackParticipantAll,
1130 local time
21 May 1942
New GuineaGreetings all, having just wrapped up the Coral Sea battles, I figured it’s time to head back to my U.S. Army Air Corps fighter squadron, the 565th Tactical Fighter Squadron, better known as the “Chickenhawks.” The last we saw of the Chickenhawks was back in February of 1942; they’d started out fighting the Japanese over the Dutch East Indies before falling back to Australia and becoming embroiled in the fighting over Darwin. After things quieted down there, they ended up moving over to Brisbane, where they had a quiet period of daily patrolling to bring in replacements and get them trained up. But they got word at the end of April that they’d be moving soon, and immediately after the Battle of Coral Sea they packed up and shipped out, heading up to Port Moresby on New Guinea, making Kila Kila Airfield, AKA “3 Mile Drome,” their new home on 11 May 1942. They only had a couple days before they were called to action.
On 13 May, Captain Cotton led six P-40s against four Zeros and six Bettys. One Zero and one Betty were downed at the cost of three P-40s and 25/30 damage points on the New Guinea Harbor Facilities.
On 14 May, Captain Goode led a depleted flight of only four P-40s up against four Zeros and six Bettys, and it was an unmitigated disaster. All four US fighters were shot down, with Captain Goode and Lt O’Brien killed in action, while the enemy didn’t lose a single aircraft! The Japanese bombers quickly finished off the Harbor Facilities, and pounded the Marshalling Area (22/30 damage points).
On 16 May, Major Jordan led the squadron aloft to intercept six Bettys escorted by four Zeros, but Lt Daniel was the star of the show. The Americans lost a single P-40, but they knocked down two Zeros and four Bettys, with Lt Daniel knocking down four of those aircraft and winning the Distinguished Flying Cross. The remaining two Japanese bombers jettisoned their bombs and returned to base, so no bombs fell on the Allied Marshalling Area (still 22/30).
On 18 May, 1st Lt Pace led a flight of four P-40s on escort duty for six B-25 Mitchells detailed to pound Wewak’s POL storage tanks. They met five Zeros over the target, with all five being shot down, though two of those were actually by the bomber crews, who took heavy losses. While the Chickenhawks only lost one P-40, four of the six bombers were shot down, and they barely scratched the POL target (6/30 damage points).
On 19 May, two patrols ran into each other over No Man’s Land, ending with each side losing a single fighter.
Now it’s 21 May, and after another day of bad weather, two young Lieutenants find themselves escorting a flight of five B-25 Mitchells over to Wewak again, where a pair of Zeros rise up to meet them.
Another relatively small game, with two P-40s escorting five B-25s, versus two Zeros. Attrition during the campaign is taking its toll.
Lt Lewis taking the fight to the enemy!
One of the Zeke’s (bottom left) has gotten in amongst the bombers, causing some havoc, managing to damage three of them so far (red beads, which show that he is damaged, as well).
The escorts are finally working as a team (right, bottom right) to corral the marauder.To see how the fight went, please check the blog at:
https://oldleadbreed.blogspot.com/2019/11/chickenhawks-over-new-guinea-6.html?m=1Next up, once again Japanese bombers are inbound.
V/R,
Jack07/11/2019 at 14:52 #126105Darkest Star GamesParticipantEither those bombadiers need refresher training or they need to check that they aren’t dropping dummy practice bombs! Nomore ice cream for them until they do some real work!
"I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."
07/11/2019 at 22:30 #126123kyoteblueParticipantDid any of you know that a flight of B-25’s once mistakenly bombed Boise City Oklahoma??? True story!!!
08/11/2019 at 02:41 #126128Just JackParticipantDarby – Damn man, you cracked me up with the ‘no more ice cream’! My thoughts on the wing-wipers exactly…
Kyote – Maybe they figured all OK is good for is a bombing range 😉
Next fight will be posted tomorrow morning, but then you’ll have to wait, probably until Sunday night or Monday morning.
V/R,
Jack08/11/2019 at 04:56 #126129kyoteblueParticipantThe target range was in NE New Mexico the just got off course and hit Oklahoma.
08/11/2019 at 09:51 #126147Deleted UserMemberI keep seeing the B-25s as B-17s and imagining the rules used for 8th Air Force campaign, say running a bomber squadron and get a crew to survive for 25 missions. Pretty sure I’m in denial, seeing IJN wiped out.
08/11/2019 at 13:37 #126160Just JackParticipantKyote – Uh-huh. Or maybe they’d already detected the seeds of your Red insurrection! 😉
Thomaston – The thought has crossed my mind as well. Someday I’ll hit you up for some 8th Air Force planes, and some Vietnam-era strike stuff, too. I was even thinking about an interdiction game where P-47s wander the map shooting up tanks, trains, bridges, and supply depots.
V/R,
Jack
08/11/2019 at 13:51 #126161Just JackParticipantAll,
1130 local time
22 May 1942
New GuineaGreetings all, having just wrapped up the Coral Sea battles, I figured it’s time to head back to my U.S. Army Air Corps fighter squadron, the 565th Tactical Fighter Squadron, better known as the “Chickenhawks.” The last we saw of the Chickenhawks was back in February of 1942; they’d started out fighting the Japanese over the Dutch East Indies before falling back to Australia and becoming embroiled in the fighting over Darwin. After things quieted down there, they ended up moving over to Brisbane, where they had a quiet period of daily patrolling to bring in replacements and get them trained up. But they got word at the end of April that they’d be moving soon, and immediately after the Battle of Coral Sea they packed up and shipped out, heading up to Port Moresby on New Guinea, making Kila Kila Airfield, AKA “3 Mile Drome,” their new home on 11 May 1942. They only had a couple days before they were called to action.
On 13 May, Captain Cotton led six P-40s against four Zeros and six Bettys. One Zero and one Betty were downed at the cost of three P-40s and 25/30 damage points on the New Guinea Harbor Facilities.
On 14 May, Captain Goode led a depleted flight of only four P-40s up against four Zeros and six Bettys, and it was an unmitigated disaster. All four US fighters were shot down, with Captain Goode and Lt O’Brien killed in action, while the enemy didn’t lose a single aircraft! The Japanese bombers quickly finished off the Harbor Facilities, and pounded the Marshalling Area (22/30 damage points).
On 16 May, Major Jordan led the squadron aloft to intercept six Bettys escorted by four Zeros, but Lt Daniel was the star of the show. The Americans lost a single P-40, but they knocked down two Zeros and four Bettys, with Lt Daniel knocking down four of those aircraft and winning the Distinguished Flying Cross. The remaining two Japanese bombers jettisoned their bombs and returned to base, so no bombs fell on the Allied Marshalling Area (still 22/30).
On 18 May, 1st Lt Pace led a flight of four P-40s on escort duty for six B-25 Mitchells detailed to pound Wewak’s POL storage tanks. They met five Zeros over the target, with all five being shot down, though two of those were actually by the bomber crews, who took heavy losses. While the Chickenhawks only lost one P-40, four of the six bombers were shot down, and they barely scratched the POL target (6/30 damage points).
On 19 May, two patrols ran into each other over No Man’s Land, ending with each side losing a single fighter.
On 21 May, two young Lieutenants found themselves escorting a flight of five B-25 Mitchells over to Wewak again, where a pair of Zeros rise up to meet them. Both Zeros were downed, for the loss of a single P-40s, and all five bombers made it, though they didn’t score very well (only 12 more damage points, so 18/30 on the POL target).
Now it’s 22 May, and five Bettys are inbound, escorted by a single Zero! 1st Lt Daniel, now an Ace, leads aloft a pack of four P-40s, and their pilots are hungry!
Some lucky dice-rollin’ sees five Bettys inbound, escorted by a single Zeke. Meat!
The lone Japanese fighter pilot makes a run on Lt Daniel.
But there are just too many P-40s for the Zero to fend off.
It’s another aerial scrum!
But the Americans are relentless, like a pack o’piranhas.To get all the details, please check the blog at:
https://oldleadbreed.blogspot.com/2019/11/chickenhawks-over-new-guinea-7.html?m=1The Americans are going back on the offensive, B-25s are loading up, hoping to not only get to the target area, but maybe actually hit something, too! Coming your way, either Sunday or Monday.
V/R,
Jack08/11/2019 at 14:23 #126165Darkest Star GamesParticipantI’d call that a good victory! Sure, they lost a couple of planes and the pilots are banged up, but they really needed that breather. Good work for the Boys!
"I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."
08/11/2019 at 15:46 #126172Deleted UserMemberHow many pilots are left at this point? I’m still hoping IJN will wipe the squadron out.
08/11/2019 at 19:18 #126185WhirlwindParticipantNice work, although those bomber gunners didn’t do so badly…what do they hit and damage on?
08/11/2019 at 19:22 #126186kyoteblueParticipantDamn. I just hope the B-25s will hit something this time.
08/11/2019 at 19:27 #126187WhirlwindParticipantRight, caught up on the previous fights…the ‘hawks seem to be doing okay! I enjoyed the Sweep mission, interesting to see how the different match-ups (2v2, then 2v1) played out.
08/11/2019 at 20:34 #126194Just JackParticipantDarby – Yeah man, beers and ice cream! For the fighter pilots.
Thomaston – I’m not quite sure at this point (I played all the way up through fight #9 last weekend), I’m thinking it was about seven. And you’re despicable!
Whirlwind John – Yeah, the first two were ugly, but just like the Pelicans, things have evened out. The bombers hit on 6 then kill on 4+. Yes, the smaller fights have been lots of fun.
Kyote John – Yeah, it would be nice.
V/R,
Jack
11/11/2019 at 13:15 #126302Just JackParticipantAll,
1130 local time
25 May 1942
New GuineaGreetings all, having just wrapped up the Coral Sea battles, I figured it’s time to head back to my U.S. Army Air Corps fighter squadron, the 565th Tactical Fighter Squadron, better known as the “Chickenhawks.” The last we saw of the Chickenhawks was back in February of 1942; they’d started out fighting the Japanese over the Dutch East Indies before falling back to Australia and becoming embroiled in the fighting over Darwin. After things quieted down there, they ended up moving over to Brisbane, where they had a quiet period of daily patrolling to bring in replacements and get them trained up. But they got word at the end of April that they’d be moving soon, and immediately after the Battle of Coral Sea they packed up and shipped out, heading up to Port Moresby on New Guinea, making Kila Kila Airfield, AKA “3 Mile Drome,” their new home on 11 May 1942. They only had a couple days before they were called to action.
On 13 May, Captain Cotton led six P-40s against four Zeros and six Bettys. One Zero and one Betty were downed at the cost of three P-40s and 25/30 damage points on the New Guinea Harbor Facilities.
On 14 May, Captain Goode led a depleted flight of only four P-40s up against four Zeros and six Bettys, and it was an unmitigated disaster. All four US fighters were shot down, with Captain Goode and Lt O’Brien killed in action, while the enemy didn’t lose a single aircraft! The Japanese bombers quickly finished off the Harbor Facilities, and pounded the Marshalling Area (22/30 damage points).
On 16 May, Major Jordan led the squadron aloft to intercept six Bettys escorted by four Zeros, but Lt Daniel was the star of the show. The Americans lost a single P-40, but they knocked down two Zeros and four Bettys, with Lt Daniel knocking down four of those aircraft and winning the Distinguished Flying Cross. The remaining two Japanese bombers jettisoned their bombs and returned to base, so no bombs fell on the Allied Marshalling Area (still 22/30).
On 18 May, 1st Lt Pace led a flight of four P-40s on escort duty for six B-25 Mitchells detailed to pound Wewak’s POL storage tanks. They met five Zeros over the target, with all five being shot down, though two of those were actually by the bomber crews, who took heavy losses. While the Chickenhawks only lost one P-40, four of the six bombers were shot down, and they barely scratched the POL target (6/30 damage points).
On 19 May, two patrols ran into each other over No Man’s Land, ending with each side losing a single fighter.
On 21 May, two young Lieutenants found themselves escorting a flight of five B-25 Mitchells over to Wewak again, where a pair of Zeros rise up to meet them. Both Zeros were downed, for the loss of a single P-40s, and all five bombers made it, though they didn’t score very well (only 12 more damage points, so 18/30 on the POL target).
On 22 May, five Bettys escorted by a single Zero were met by 1st Lt Daniel and three other P-40s. The Chickenhawks knocked down the lone Zero and three of the Bettys, turning back the last two, but they lost two of their own to defensive fire from the enemy bombers.
It’s now 25 May, after a couple of days of bad weather, the Americans are going on the offensive again. 1st Lt Daniel is again the flight leader, leading an escort of four P-40s with six B-25s against the Japanese Combat Air Patrol of four Zeros.
Zero 03 makes a run on the Mitchells, scoring a few hits before breaking right.
More Zeros enter the fray, splashing two bombers (white puffs) and damaging one badly enough he needs to return to base (bottom right).
Better late than never, the escorts finally engage, with three of them boxing in a line Zero.To see how the fight went, please check the blog at:
https://oldleadbreed.blogspot.com/2019/11/chickenhawks-over-new-guinea-8.html?m=1Next up is the last fight of this mini-campaign, the Japanese making one last-ditch effort to bomb Port Moresby, with two Zeros escorting six Bettys against five P-40 Warhawks. Coming soon!
V/R,
Jack11/11/2019 at 14:29 #126304Darkest Star GamesParticipant“Lt Daniel, the Ace that won’t engage, does his customary Immelman to remain relevant and look like he’s still in the fight.” – That cracked me up a lot more than it should have!
Those bombardiers still don’t deserve any ice cream. They should have their aviator sunglasses and brill cream privileges taken away too.
"I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."
11/11/2019 at 18:49 #126326kyoteblueParticipantDamn!!!
12/11/2019 at 02:19 #126338Just JackParticipantDarby – Yeah, Lt Daniel, despite being an Ace, has been a bit inconsistent. And those bombardiers are clearly Dapper Dan-men…
Kyote – Yup. I was expecting the Chickenhawks, with their numbers advantage, to get a few more bombers to the target area, though I’m not sure it would have mattered…
V/R,
Jack13/11/2019 at 15:20 #126404Deleted UserMemberIt’s a lot less fun now these guys are constantly surviving.
13/11/2019 at 15:49 #126405Just JackParticipantYeah, that must suck for you!
Just wait until the Marines get into the action! Ever see that movie “The Final Countdown”? 😉
V/R,
Jack
13/11/2019 at 16:31 #126408Darkest Star GamesParticipantAnd those bombardiers are clearly Dapper Dan-men…
Well see that’s your problem, they’re probably all related through the inbreeding of back woods jug band tours!
"I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."
13/11/2019 at 18:52 #126419kyoteblueParticipantLOL!!!
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