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  • #68295
    Private Snafu
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    I need some help.  Mike gave up his secret formula for painting skeletons and it includes some Coat d’arms paint colors. Does anyone know cooresponding colors in Vallejo or Reaper MSP?  The colors are:

    pale sand #522
    Super Wash dark brown #177

    I have some GW washes as well or I can get them easily.

    I appreciate any help you can provide.

     

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    #68297
    Mike
    Keymaster

    This LINK ? (opens a document)

    #68298
    Mike
    Keymaster

    Hmmm did not check the sheet before linking to here.

    Not that useful.

    Sorry.

     

    #68302
    Private Snafu
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    Who the heck makes them and why don’t they have a website or color sheet?

    I think the Reaper Ivory triad is pretty close.

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    #68305
    zippyfusenet
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    I’ve bought Coat d’Arms paints from Scale Creep Miniatures, in the USA:

    http://www.scalecreep.com/catalog/

    You'll shoot your eye out, kid!

    #68306
    Mike
    Keymaster

    Who makes what ?

    Coat d’arms?

     

    #68314
    Private Snafu
    Participant

    Who makes Coat D’arms and why don’t they have a color chart available like every other manufacturer?  You don’t need to answer that it is mostly rhetorical.

    I suppose I could just buy the colors but it seems unnecessary if I can just sub in something I have.  I’m going to do another test figure this evening.

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    #68316
    McKinstry
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    Black Hat carries Coat D’Arms paints in the UK as does, I think, Essex.

    https://www.blackhat.co.uk/product-category/coat-darms-paints/

    As others have said, in the US it is Scale Creep.

    The tree of Life is self pruning.

    #68383
    Private Snafu
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    I’m not sure why people think I am asking where to buy Coat d’arm.

    I’m looking for the corresponding color in Vallejo or Reaper, but no matter I think I have a solution.

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    #68387
    Mike
    Keymaster

    I’m not sure why people think I am asking where to buy Coat d’arm.

    I thought because of this:

    Who the heck makes them and why don’t they have a website

    but no matter I think I have a solution.

    What’s the plan man?

    🙂

    #68390
    Private Snafu
    Participant

    The plan is, this evening, to finish the final highlight, paint the bows, quivers, swords, and post a picture for your review tomorrow.  I’d have finished them if I hadn’t got distracted by painting Khaki on as mass of G.I. jackets.

    Next I’m going to be asking for suggestions how to paint the rusty armor and weapons.

    Coat d’arm, definitely old guard in my book.  Not widely available in the US and seemingly no product support.

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    #68391
    Blackhat
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    Coat d’arm, definitely old guard in my book. Not widely available in the US and seemingly no product support.

    They are available from Scale Creep Miniatures in the USA by mail order to any of the 50 states.. Or direct from us.

    I am puzzled by what you mean by product support? We have a list of the colours on the website with swtches – not sure what else you are looking for?

    Mike

    Owner of Coat D’arms

     

    Black Hat Miniatures -
    http://www.www.blackhat.co.uk/

    #68396
    Mike
    Keymaster

    Next I’m going to be asking for suggestions how to paint the rusty armor and weapons.

    Well I use Coat D’arms paints!!

    😀 😀

    Mostly Horse Tone Bay #224 and Rust #241

    Thin wash of 224.
    Then some painted 224 in certain areas.
    Then some 241 in the recesses.

    Not sure it is especially realistic but it is obvious it is rust. (I reckon)

    #68397
    Private Snafu
    Participant

    I stand corrected.  “Seemingly”, was until you stepped in to answer some questions.  I would like whatever PDF color guides are available, please.  The website says there is one for the WWII range, if there are others I’d like those as well.

    Honestly it is not entirely clear on the website that you are Coat d’arm.  Here you sign off as the owner but the website says you are the distributor.  You might see from my point of view that it was not clear until you stepped in and clarified.

    Someone has your paints and Vallejo sitting in their rack and it’s my fault that I did not specify that I was hoping to hear from that person.

    I rarely ever mail order for paint.  The economics of shipping are self evident.  Only when I am ordering something else from a retailer.  Hence, Coat d’arm is virtually non existent in the US, whereas Vallejo is on the shelf at several US retailers including Hobby Town and Hobby Lobby.  I’ve got my candy from Scale Creep so I’m no stranger there, though not a frequent customer. Reaper is similarly available at Hobby Town, some FLGS’s, and where Reaper miniatures are sold.

    Take it for what it is worth but not having a readily available guide such as Citadel or Vallejo’s

    http://cdn.acrylicosvallejo.com/2d567ed91fb58cdc74108685395ac19a/CC070-Rev14.pdf

    or a tool like Reaper’s Power Pallete

    https://www.reapermini.com/PowerPalette

    puts other manufacturers in a category of relative low product support.   Foundry has a number of resources available including an entire page “about” them.  I hope you can take the feedback in the spirit of constructive criticism.  Thanks for the reply.

    STH

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    #68400
    Private Snafu
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    Power Palette yielded this:

    but, I think this is a better match and it is what I selected.

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    #68401
    Private Snafu
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    Next I’m going to be asking for suggestions how to paint the rusty armor and weapons.

    Well I use Coat D’arms paints!! 😀 😀 Mostly Horse Tone Bay #224 and Rust #241 Thin wash of 224. Then some painted 224 in certain areas. Then some 241 in the recesses. Not sure it is especially realistic but it is obvious it is rust. (I reckon)

    No swath for Rust #241 on Black Hat site.  I think I can wing it here.  Your coaching has been invaluable!

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    #81576
    Angel Barracks
    Moderator

    How did you get on?

    #81593
    Patrice
    Participant

    As a rule, any colour which is called something as Southern Carpathian Jäger Field Uniform in an historical paint range will translate as something like Syphilitic Goblin’s Vomit in a fantasy paint range.

    http://www.argad-bzh.fr/argad/en.html
    https://www.anargader.net/

    #81600

    I’ve always used this chart for comparisons.

    https://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Paint_Range_Compatibility_Chart

    I still use around eight Coat D’arms colours as a bottle can last me around eight years. I am only just using up the original GW paints I purchased in 2005

    #81618
    Private Snafu
    Participant

    How did you get on?

    I finished the first batch, but the others have languished on the table for a while now.  I’ve been eyeing them but the motivation to paint has been low. I’m battling the plague here.  Easier to surf the net.  I posted the first batch on a different thread a while back but here they are again.

    I liked yours better but these will be ok I suppose.  I am happy enough with the palette, but need to work on the technique a bit.  Here are the rest of the archers (WIP).  They are going to be mounted 4 to a 20mmx40mm base to make 8 elements.  I write down everything in a book when I paint so I should be able to pick these guys back up and run with them if I can remember which drybrushing/washing/highlighting bones step I was on.

    The rest of the army is in the drawer here.  A bunch more, melee types, for elements (on the left) and one of each pose (a few duplicates – rightside) along with the Necromancers individually based for skirmishes, casualty removal, and RPG’s.  There’s a sqaud of Iraqi’s and the Molch mixed in there as well.

    Thanks for asking, maybe I’ll finish up the archers.  The rest will be some other time as I plan to return to my Angry Saxons for our Saga campaign we are going to start in spring.

    edit: Black Hat has added this below so I have to give credit there.  Wouldn’t have known except for the Necro and the necro was very appropriate considering the topic.

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    #81623
    kyoteblue
    Participant

    A useful thread, thanks!

    #81901
    Katie L
    Participant

    “Next I’m going to be asking for suggestions how to paint the rusty armor and weapons.”

    Black undercoat

    VGC “Tinny Tin”

    A layer of W&N “Burnt Sienna” ink.

    Several very thin washes of mixtures of VMC “Bright Orange” and VMC “Shadows Flesh” — varying both the relative quantities and the dilution. Use wet brushes to pull the colour around and prevent out-of-scale pooling & dried ones to suck water out of crevices to leave the colour behind.

    Any silver paint you have, gently dry-brushed over raised areas, chip the edges of weapons and paint in any modelled-in scratches/dents.

    Optionally — Using a very fine brush and W&N “Silver” drawing ink, add more scratches and scuffs to weapon edges and the corners of plates.

     

    (Yes, it takes ages, but the effects are really quite good.)

     

     

    #81991
    Sane Max
    Participant

    Thread Hijack….. Which one of their Fantasy Range is the GW paint previously known as Bubonic Brown? Anyone know if it’s ‘Festering Brown’, ‘Bilious Brown’ ‘Golden Brown’ or ‘Bad, Bad Leroy Brown’ ?

    It was probably my most often used paint when doing Biblicals, and I kinda miss it.

    #81996
    Radar
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