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    Bandit
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    ESR Napoleonics can be played with any scale figures at nearly any ground scale, here’s a battle report of Dürenstein from our ESR Campaign Guide: Roll up that Map, 1805 in Germany; played in France in 15mm.

    Cheers,

    The Bandit

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    Whirlwind
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    good-looking game and interesting outcome since Gazan effectively won on his own.  Thinking back to my own refight, when the French were quite severely defeated because Kutuzov managed to defeat Gazan because he was isolated, and the historical result, which was a fairly evenly matched bloodbath, who do you think has, or should have, the advantage in this scenario?

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    Bandit
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    Not being involved with the playing of this game (it was run in France and the game host posted this to the ESR Napoleonics Yahoo Group), I was surprised that Gazan did so well. My suspicion is the dice just fell that way. The columns coming out of the mountains are expected to be fatigued and disorganized as they were historically (and this is variable in the scenario so they could arrive in better, worse, or equal shape to history), but the main attack made in the morning frontally against Gazan by Miloradovich can be expected to inflict some significant damage, all of Miloradovich’s troops are rated approximately equally to Gazan’s and they are approximately the same number of Units. However, a lot of this scenario depends on how it is presented to players through.

    The scenario indicates the mountain passes should be of concern, if the French player takes heed of that, then his lead infantry element (Graindorge) is all he has to fight Miloradovich, as holding the rest of Gazan’s 2nd Division in reserve to cover the mountains and react to a threat is reasonable. However, if the French player either chooses to ignore the mountains or their potential threat is not conveyed strongly enough to the player… then it becomes a fairly equal fight between all of Gazan and all of Miloradovich. One would still expect Gazan to take some lumps in that exchange, though some of that comes down to dice.

    The biggest issue in the scenario is timing. The scenario is staged to begin at 8AM, but the first Russians through the mountains don’t arrive until noon, and the next until around 3PM, of course, neither side knows the timing. If the Russian leaps in with Miloradovich, it is very risky, 4 hours is a long time to fight without support. If the Russian player goes the cautious route, of just pinning Moriter’s lead element in place and waiting for Russian flags to appear from the mountain passes, they improve their chance of a victory significantly. Meanwhile, if the French were to get sucked into coming forward against Miloradovich when the first Russian column arrives from the mountains, it is possible the French lose an entire Formation by being attacked in the rear.

    A challenge with Dürenstein and ESR is that it is a small scenario – which makes players jump towards trying to run it tactically, however, the Russian player is Kutusov not Miloradovich or Strik, so really one needs to focus on the grand tactical level and coordinating the different elements, rather than looking for a tactical advantage during the combat. And the Russians do have an expectation of when their columns will be arriving, the timing is wrong, but it could still lead the player towards a winning strategy.

    Cheers,

    The Bandit

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