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  • #176426
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    From 1975 to Here: Hinchliffe ‘25’mm Resurrections -The Allies

    Historical Gaming- Allies
    http://flic.kr/s/aHsmPLTcdG

    Back in 2019 (pre-drama days) I’d reviewed all the ‘old metal and decided within a short space of time a resurrection was due.

    A new album with a catalogue of figures ‘in reserve’ for some time.
    These being a purchase, donation and ‘held in respect’ from a young man who went off and travelled the world, never to return.

    IMG_3335 Hinchliffe 1970.
    by DaveW, on Flickr.

    As explained in descriptions, not my painting but I’m using/ recreating ‘nostalgia’ units as made by the originator. I even have some of the paint AND a couple of kilos of coloured sawdust I made myself starting back in the 70’s. So there! Don’t throw anything away, especially your hobbies.
    – – –

    IMG_3328_sm Russ Inf by DaveW, on Flickr.

    Looks like they’ve remoulded it, so a better figure than my originals (now 28mm size). All I need to create a a couple of command bases.

    Yes they’ve got some ‘condition’ issues with poor casting, brittle sabres and flash all over the place, and a few missing critical pieces like enough command. However clean up metal first and paiting goes easier. If I break something I can usually repair again with pins, CA and Milliput.

    As I said I’m taking a light touch approach to refurbing painted units.

    The Prussian Kurassier (in Kollet !?!) are gloss white- lucky I still have a tin- and some of their paint flaked off after some flexed arms and heads to remove extreme dimensions. Gilder /H loved his ‘flash’ charging cav a lot!

    IMG_4703_sm East Prussian Kurassier 1813.

    A bit of shading round belts and a bit more colour on horses etc.
    IMG_4711_sm by DaveW[/url], on Flickr

    However taking a break from extremely detailed (ie piping and gold bits) French giving my eyes a rest, before I get back to those.
    Another foray with the camera will bring a different army to the fore, but these at least are being resurrected for now as I take a rest from detail driven French forces.

    Enjoy
    davew

    While figure painting continues including some ‘resurrection’ work, progress has slowed as the number of ‘work-in-progress’ projects and enforced ‘stand-downs’ escalates.

    First up today- a shot (or are they just scouting some new booty) of the Sysoev-3 Polk finally varnished! These being the last unpainted Cossack figures of the era I had I decided I could use them in my foray into ‘Allies 1805’ territory- but really they’s go anywhere, anytime!

    IMG_4767_Ru Cossacks 1- Sysoev Regt.


    So, the paint flowed, glues dried, sawdust sticking… from this taken a year ago of the ‘boxed’ incomplete unit>>

    pic gone?

    Command base completed and all the other musketeers bases trimmed to meet as near ‘current standards (they were 6 men to a base). Balance being ‘refurbed’ for the subsequent battalion (not that I have adequate command yet)…

    IMG_5332.

    IMG_5338 by DaveW[/url], on Flickr


    IMG_3326_sm Russ Dragoons01 by DaveW[/url], on Flickr

    Another Allied nations unit of heritage status, this time the Russian Kharkov Dragoons of 1813 completed with a couple of figures, and rebased to two figures/ 12 per unit.

    IMG_5727_sm_©dww 2021_Kharkov Dragoons 1813..

    2- A rear view showing more of the troopers and the officers attributes. The flag is original paper version by Hinchliffe as painted by original owner.
    IMG_5730_sm_©dww 2021_Kharkov Dragoons 1813..

    3- Reverse front angle and officer closest.
    IMG_5731_sm_©dww 2021_Kharkov Dragoons 1813-completed Hinchliffe regiment.

    Not a major addition to the army but at least another complete unit out of the storage box.

    As the original owner painted nearly 50 figures all for the same regiment next steps will include a more extensive colour change, which I unfortunately started with loose figures in a too dark green.

    A few touch-ups are required on the officers and standard itself…

    Hope you like the old look so far anyway, cheers

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    #176427
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    From 1975 to Here: Hinchliffe ‘25’mm Resurrections -The Allies

    [Edited out re-duplicated posts!- Sorry!]

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    #176459
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    Nice to see the old lads getting an outing. I’ve just picked up a 25mm Byzantine army that needs gentle refurbishment so you’re prodding me to make a start 🙂

    https://jimssfnovelsandwargamerules.wordpress.com/

    #176489
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    Thanks Jim for reading. The post went into ‘audit/moderator’ mode and I couldn’t replace text from my draft so I guess thats why its ended up with two versions, at least I have to check. Sorry if there’s incoherence in the dialogue and pics dont match. I’ll try to correct in due course.

    Yes the art of resurrection should be strong; my I’ve seen some dusty old shambles (like Steptoe etc..) ambling across tables in recent years.

    I had painted many units for a ‘new’ version 1813/14 Allied army (the opposition), and just decided that, as I had already painted many of these early models (though catching the new animated sculpts from Hinchliffe as well)  these painted models deserved to join them.

    Of course even they were done 30 years ago as well (early 90s) but have a significantly better paintwork in a more traditional style, at least IMHO.

    I don’t need to spend as much, or any time, on research for these, and a bit like modern Eureka Miniatures, the exciting action poses were a breeze to paint. When adequate sunshine does come along soon I should get them out and record pics once again.

    cheers dave_ 😉

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    #177773
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    [Edit_cut]

    Removed messed up post -apologies for the inconvenience
    ++

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    #177775
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    Thanks for posting, it’s nice to see Hinchcliffe figures receiving praise.  I have always been a big fan of these figures.

    #177777
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    *Edited 2024 see below.
    NB- Finally got IT problems sorted and a coincidental sunny day allowed me to partake of some old glory.

    Not new figures, the same old regime (ie 1970s) of figures but my Allied Cavalry Division -using the figures assembled by original owner, not an OB- as painted in 1990’s.

    First Austria, a limited selection:-

    IMG_6091_sm Austrian Kurassier Regt ©dww_2022

    Next- Prussia:-

    1- Hussars

    IMG_6092_sm ©dww_2022 #2 Silesian Hussars Regt 1813.

    2- Silesian Landwehr

    IMG_6097_sm dww_2022 Regt #8 Silesian Landwehr 1813.

    3- Prussian Regular Uhlans (two units- unnamed).

    IMG_6099_sm ©dww_2022 Prussian Uhlans 1813

    Russia:-

    1- Kiev Dragoon Regiment

    IMG_6095_sm ©dww_2022 Russian Kiev Dragoons 1813.

    2- Ukraine Cossack Horde [3 polks].

    IMG_6100_ ©dww 2022- Ukraine Cossacks.


    Edit 2024- Thanks to Steven Summerfield and others we know now that the Ukrainian ‘Cossacks’ brigade were part of a limited ‘Mass Levy’ force to augment the Russian Army.
    Raised in haste, they were largely ‘dressed’ in cossack attire at the time, but treated as if they were ‘regular’ cavalry, that is to say ‘in the Army’ proper.

    Hence they did get more regular officers, trumpeters and equipment that the tribal and true Cossacks did not receive. Much if not all of the ‘Mass Levy’ of 1812/13 became regular regiments when the wars had passed.
    These Ukrainians became regular uhlan (lancers) regiments in 1815 and existed as such for many decades.


    3- #1 Cossack Polk

    IMG_6102_sm ©dww 2022 #1 Polk Ukraine Cossacks.

    4- #2 Cossack Polk

    IMG_6103_sm ©dww 2022 #2 Polk Ukraine Cossacks.

    5- #3 Cossack Polk

    IMG_6104_sm ©dww 2022 #3 Polk Ukraine Cossacks

    by DaveW, on Flickr.

    To view the full stream go:- https://flic.kr/ps/FZYRs

    Thanks for viewing, regards, davew

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    #185313
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    I knew I forgot to add something, somewhere, and here is my thread!

    The lastest ‘new unit’ [2023] created with help from a purchased estate, another collectors hard work… click the pix to go to Flickr and more comments.

    IMG_6576_Russian Horse Artillery 1813/14

    and nearly finished (except the solo figures gloss update to be done!)

    IMG_6608_Russian Horse Artillery 1813/14.JPG

    I’ll be happy to keep the legacy alive,

    d

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    #185315
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    Some rather lovely figures on that stream Dave, thanks for the link.

    #185337
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    Ditto Guys comment above, some timeless classics.  It takes me back to being a teenager saving my pennies to buy Hinchcliffe and Minifigs.

    #185348
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    Thanks gents, I’m glad there are still warm fuzzies to be had!
    Incentive to get more of the partly finished/ unfinished units to table, while ‘my French’ wait in hiatus– my how the worm turns!

    d

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    #186225
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    Anyone can confirm if the [current] Hinchliffe outfit is actually making and selling? I’ve been waiting since 2021 to purchase fill in figures- they’ve barely updated the site and not added pix of most of the range. Sad way to publicise/ market ….

    -d

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    #186237
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    Any can confirm if the Hinchliffe outfit is actually making and selling? I’ve been waiting since 2021 to purchase fill in figures- they’ve barely updated the site and not added pix of most of the range. Sad way to publicise…. -d

    I believe Lancashire games is producing and  selling the full range…

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    #186239
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    S&A Scenics are producing the Napoleonics and other post 1700 figures.

    There is a contact page if you want to ask him any questions.

     

    Lancashire Games are producing the pre-1700 ranges.

    I have no idea what the relationship, if any, between the two is.

     

    #192370
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    I am wondering if this is a ‘Foremost Range’ figure, and not the Hinchliffe stable? Anyone?? Bueller???

    Brand?

    More pics here:-

    http://IMG_6078_ c1980_ Cuirassier General_Special Command Figures 03-4_©dww 2022.

    I ask because he isn’t listed/ shown in the great Hinchliffe Catalogue of 1974?? ish,,
    -dave

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    #192401
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    Nice to see refurbishment,  have tossed whole units in the paint stripper.

    I have your #8th Silesians as the #3, there seems to be some controversy about them.

     

    I only get to play with 28s at conventions but they are nice figures

    #192402
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    Nice to see refurbishment, have tossed whole units in the paint stripper.

    Actually this fine chap is an Other Person original paint job, not mine except minor and invisible I hope touch ups.

    He’s actually done in W&N oils and was passed on by an old friend culling his exotics back in the 90’s, along with a few others (listed somewhere here as well as flickr).

    He’s ‘oversize’ for Minifigs but as a command, if I don’t place him too close to others he should fit, and I’m sure he’ll make a valiant commander. The beer mat is vintage too- borrowed 1984 from some English pub just in case anyone recognises them.
    -d

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    #192403
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    I have your #8th Silesians as the #3, there seems to be some controversy about them.

    As  to the source of my naming, I cannot answer directly. It was the ’90’s I took Hinchliffe Russian uhlan models and adapted them to Prussian Landwehr, a complex subject.

    I pulled out my Nash [Almark 1974] but it didn’t give me specific naming or uniform confidence. So unsure where I took the lead from…

    [Edit] Thurs 1900Hrs-

    Found Marcus Stein had compiled a pdf of ‘authentic’ research:

    one of the best pictorial summaries of the Prussian Landwehr were published as “Heere und Waffen” plates – these covering the Landwehr done by the famous uniform researcher Georg Schäfer in Hamburg.
    I extracted the two (large) plates of the Landwehr cavalry and put this PDF on my server

    http://www.napoleon-online.de/forum/Preussen_Landwehrkavallerie_GS.pdf though this may refer more to 1815..

    It’s possible that I had misread a reference as ‘8’ instead of ‘3’… can’t readily access the figures to check their labels, as they have 7 boxes of Frenchmen on top of them!
    -dave

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    #193983
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    I am wondering if this is a ‘Foremost Range’ figure, and not the Hinchliffe stable? Anyone?? Bueller???

    Answering hisself, I found the ‘new’ old figure of the early 2023 second hand Hinchliffe purchase, in fact has very clear markings I hadn’t noticed as I placed the figure aside in storage.

    So not the figure shown in this pic, but the code is PF20- Personality Figure #20. Due to some egregious painting (the first I’ve actually seen in the figure collection I happened upon), I’m giving him a slight refurb. Pics in due course…

    ~d

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    #194458
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    OTOH,
    I should have spotted this before, but now I know where Peter Gilder/ Hinchliffe got his horse postures from:-

    https://uniformenportal.de/picture.php?/230/category/41

    ~d

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    #199435
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    3- Prussian Regular Uhlans (two units- unnamed)

    IMG_6099_sm ©dww_2022 Prussian Uhlans 1813 by DaveW on Flickr.

    Since that 2022 post, nothing has happened except a cursory review. Given they are about to get an airing at a ‘nostalgia’ 50th Anniversary game in a weeks time, perhaps they are entitled to be ‘designated’?

    As these are both (ie 15 bases = x2  figs)* a real plus-size regiment – the West Prussian Uhlanen.
    Whilst it may be tempting to repaint a portion into a different designation, it will serve little purpose on the table, so they can remain a brigade or separated as appropriate.

    These are the original owners 1970’s painting and apart from significant defects (broken cardboard pennants etc. and a wash over the brightest horses ever seen, I’ve not attempted to ‘restore’ them in any major way, and they are also not from an actual OB.

    Other portions of my 1813/14 ‘Allies’ I painted from scratch, are to a certain OB. I used Nafzigers 813GDJ_ Prussian Army 12 July 1813 and to confirm this unit.

    My actual ‘army’ however will be based on a corps of the Russian Army as taken from Dominic Lievens book (Russian Army Corps at the beginning of the autumn 1813 campaign).
    ~d

    *Post Edit numbers.

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    #201644
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    The old with the old ‘newer’ versions-

    Kazakis

    The Sysoyev-1 Kazaki Pulk increased 30% this week with those ‘spare’ painted lads getting the spruce up to current refurbishment standards, and modernised not old style basing!

    I don’t have any more, yet, but could borrow the 1813 Kazakis (dare I mention Ukraine ‘Masse Levy’) which would be a potent force against some laconic Frenchies!
    -d

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