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  • #47676
    Howard Whitehouse
    Howard Whitehouse
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    My shiny toy soldier project, in 42mm, is a dastardly invasion by the sneaky French onto the shores of Victorian England, possibly while everyone is at Epsom for race week, The date is slightly vague (to allow for unlikely mechanical contraptions, Sherlock Holmes, armed suffragettes and brave boy scouts).

    I’m looking for sources on the uniforms of militia, volunteer and yeomanry uniforms, so the first line of regulars can be backed up (after a fashion) by stalwart sons of Empire pulled away from the greengrocer’s shop and the bowling green,. Any suggestion for books, cigarette cards, websites, souvenir plates?

    Thanks!

    Howard

    I do all my own stunts.

    #47677
    Rod Robertson
    Rod Robertson
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    This site might be of use to you:

    http://www.victorianstrollers.co.uk/stevesuniforms/

    Cheers and give the Froggies a right thrashing!

    Rod Robertson.

    #47682
    Patrice
    Patrice
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    I’m afraid I’m unable to help you there…

    But you could include a French spy disguised as an onion seller from Brittany! 

    http://www.argad-bzh.fr/argad/en.html
    http://www.anargader.net/

    #47707

    McKinstry
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    Just out of curiosity, how did those dastardly French get around all those large metal Royal Navy thingies Vicky and her crowd were always bragging about?

    Never wrestle with a pig. You both get muddy and the pig just likes it.

    #47732
    Howard Whitehouse
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    The Onion seller spy is a brilliant idea!

    I have no problem thinking of gloriously mad defenders of Our Island – in fact, I just painted up a company of Gurkhas, because one of the ‘Invasion scare’ novels had them cutting up the French batteries overlooking the Thames at Greenwich: see picture below!

    But the French are more difficult – it’s hard to get inspired by painting up dozens of identical line infantrymen in kepis, capotes and red trousers. I’ve already done the cool stuff – the cavalry, Turcos and Zouaves.

    I do all my own stunts.

    #47739
    Howard Whitehouse
    Howard Whitehouse
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    How did the French sneak across the channel?

    Obviously, it was a bank holiday. And Epsom week. And quite warm.

    I do all my own stunts.

    #47741
    General Slade
    General Slade
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    The old Blandford uniform guides might be useful to you in your project.  One with the snappy title “Cavalry Uniforms of Britain and the Commonwealth including other Mounted Troops” written by Robert & Christopher Wilkinson-Latham and illustrated by Jack Cassin-Scott includes plates illustrating the uniforms of such stalwart bodies of men as the South Salopian Yeomanry in 1842 and the Taplow Lancers in 1870. There are a couple of companion books on infantry uniforms by the same authors but I don’t have those so I don’t know whether they cover the more esoteric elements of the British army.

    #47775
    Patrice
    Patrice
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    the French are more difficult – it’s hard to get inspired by painting up dozens of identical line infantrymen in kepis, capotes and red trousers.

    You could add some Infanterie de Marine (blue trousers) and Fusiliers marins (sailors) who would obviously take part in such a glorious expedition… Génie (engineers) to repair bridges and roads… A mobile kitchen for French stomachs safety in these dangerous lands, and a strategical convoy of barrels of red wine for morale… And a couple of gendarmes behind the army to take local authority… 

    http://www.argad-bzh.fr/argad/en.html
    http://www.anargader.net/

    #47780
    Howard Whitehouse
    Howard Whitehouse
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    Excellent ideas on adding to the invasion force. Irregular Miniatures make a fusilier marin in 42mm, although he’s actually just a British sailor with a different head, and has his rifle on the left shoulder rather than the right, as would be French practice. I’ll have to think whether that bothers me too much, or whether I need to do some head swaps. Engineers would be present to deal with the barbarous country lanes of Britain.

    Did they still have cantinieres? Looks it up — not after 1890, but that won’t bother me in this context. Irregular have them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivandi%C3%A8re

    I do all my own stunts.

    #47781
    Howard Whitehouse
    Howard Whitehouse
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    General Slade – Matt – I have the Blandford book on cavalry, and just found the infantry volume 2 online for something like the price of a sandwich. Ordered! Thanks!

    I do all my own stunts.

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