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  • #120722
    Mr. Average
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    By that title, I mean is there any other game that focuses on a small number of super-units, treats them as something unique, and also gives you larger numbers of supporting units to play with, too?  The closest I’ve found is heavily-modified Dirtside II – most other games treat super-units as Big Tanks (i.e., knocked out pretty much as easily and with only one real battlefield function), or treats conventional units as a different version of the same thing.  Are there any two-tiered games like this that you can think of, or is Ogre truly a unique thing?

    #120725

    Berserker, by Flying Buffalo Games, but that’s space combat.

    Also Metagaming’s  Ogre replacement, Helltank and Helltank Destroyer.

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    #120730
    willb
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    Future War Commander has a section in the rules for developing units like Ogres.

    #120732
    MartinR
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    Ogre was very original when it came out (I still have my original copy) and nothing has replaced it since. So it is one of those real wargaming rarities, something unique.

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    #120762
    Phil Dutré
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    There’s probably a Battletech module that did/does that as well, but my BT knowledge is not really up to date anymore.

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    #120765
    Darkest Star Games
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    Maybe one of the Kaiju games?

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    #120770

    There was also The Creature that Ate Sheboygan. Definitely ogre-inspired.

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    #120776
    Andrew Beasley
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    There is a very silly game staring the one and only Mr Chip

    https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/92516/The-Hamster-That-Ate-The-World-MiniGame-7

     

    On a slightly more sensible Ogre vs Ogre you have

    https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/63715/Land-Ships-Set-1-MiniGame-90?manufacturers_id=645

    and it’s follow up games.

    #120777
    Mr. Average
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    Maybe one of the Kaiju games?

    Interesting – I have toyed with Samurai Robits Battle Royale. Maybe that takes me full circle.

    #120813
    Gone Fishing
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    Two more silly options, if you can find them:

    Chaosiam had a game called Stomp! in which a giant is trying to squash a bunch of thieving elves before they can escape from a wizard’s garden; the elves meanwhile are trying to pin down the giant’s sandals with garden stakes and then pull him over with ropes so that his fall will break the wall. It is a very silly game.

    The other was by Steve Jackson Games and was called Globbo. This one featured an amorphous, growing, homicidal babysitter, armed with slapping hands, guns and a deadly belching head, trying to destroy the “kids” under its care. The kids come in three varieties or stages: the first and second are blobs of yeast and floating sparks – when enough sparks can land on a yeast they morph into the third stage: a full grown bug-like creature – deadly and nasty. It’s not the sort of game one sees every day.

    Both date from the 1980s.

    #120814
    Mike
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    There is a very silly game staring the one and only Mr Chip

    https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/92516/The-Hamster-That-Ate-The-World-MiniGame-7

    On a slightly more sensible Ogre vs Ogre you have

    https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/63715/Land-Ships-Set-1-MiniGame-90?manufacturers_id=645

    and it’s follow up games.

    WB Andrew!

    #120818

    Globbo was great fun! I just remembered that one now, too!

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    #120821
    Mr. Average
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    Oh, Andrew. I take it your answer is pretty much “No, but there are some whimsically unrelated games out there that use the word Ogre in them, instead?” My fault for not being specific, isn’t it? :T 🙂

    I do vaguely remember Globbo though! And come to think of it, Star Fist sort of fills the same kind of thing as well, albeit ‘In SPAAAAAAACE!’ I have a sense that the abortive “Ronin: War” would have filled a similar niche – armies of conventional units circulating around a small number of super mecha mainly meant to fight each other, or to take on a very big army, on their own. And Helltank/HLTD is an interesting thought – one could build a set at 3mm scale since just about every unit exists in the O8/Microworld Line, doesn’t it?

    Good call on the FWC rules, too, but they always seemed to tackle super units as just Very Powerful Conventional Units – I recall Thaddeus outlining some very convincing house rules to appropriately buff them, though. And now I think of it, there are some interesting outlines for them in that expansion Andreas Udby did for Iron Cow 2103. But no game specifically designed that way.

    I suppose Ogre (to be specific, for the purveyors of whimsy, Steve Jackson Games’ Ogre/GEV the futuristic game of armored combat), really is kind of unique, in the end. BOLOs don’t seem to capture the imagination quite as heavily as one might imagine. Is it a thing just for those of us who read a certain kind of fiction at a certain point in history? Maybe.

    In any case, thanks for all the suggestions, even the slightly unusual ones!

    #120831
    Blackhat
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    Two more silly options, if you can find them: Chaosiam had a game called Stomp! in which a giant is trying to squash a bunch of thieving elves before they can escape from a wizard’s garden; the elves meanwhile are trying to pin down the giant’s sandals with garden stakes and then pull him over with ropes so that his fall will break the wall. It is a very silly game. The other was by Steve Jackson Games and was called Globbo. This one featured an amorphous, growing, homicidal babysitter, armed with slapping hands, guns and a deadly belching head, trying to destroy the “kids” under its care. The kids come in three varieties or stages: the first and second are blobs of yeast and floating sparks – when enough sparks can land on a yeast they morph into the third stage: a full grown bug-like creature – deadly and nasty. It’s not the sort of game one sees every day. Both date from the 1980s.

     

    I still have my copies – both great games – Stomp uses Rock/Paper/Scissors for combat…

     

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    #120832
    Gone Fishing
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    I still have my copies – both great games – Stomp uses Rock/Paper/Scissors for combat…

    I’m jealous, Mike! Mine are long gone but I remember we had a great deal of fun with them.

    Daryl

    #120937
    Blackhat
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    I have long wondered about creating or adapting a fantasy skirmish game so I can use my Mumakil as an “Ogre” style behemoth .  The idea being that the opposition are trying the stop the Mumakil crossing the board to crush something on the other side.

    It would have the Haradrim crew and a lot of hit points….

     

    Mike

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    #120942
    Ralph Plowman
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    Dirtside 2 from GZG has a section describing how to use ‘modular’ oversized vehicles, citing as inspiration giant cybertanks such as the Bolos from Keith  Laumer’s  series.

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