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  • #135485
    Mr. Average
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    Digging some pieces out of my lead pile while in quarantine has me thinking of playing a couple skirmish games at 6mm scale using the Rogue Planet rules, which are terrific by the way.  As always, I need a scenario.  The minis I found this afternoon were the “Stahlritters” from Microworld, who are appropriately clad in gas masks, and seem loaded for bear to fight a war in a world at about the level of World War I.  I only have one “side,” which suggested to me a civil war.

    So here we are in an unnamed country in an indeterminate time in the far future, where the Republican and Parliamentary factions, Green and Blue respectively, are finally coming to blows.  The initial center of the conflict will be the city of Coulondre, capital of the eponymous province, where Parliamentary forces are assaulting a Republican stronghold.  The civilian population has long since been driven out by artillery and “guerre miasmatique,” which has left the once celebrated city a twisted maze of rubble-choked streets, crumbling ruins and crystallized toxic residues.  Still the factions fight on.

    The Parliamentary assault is beginning from the South in the Quai de Marcelin district of the city.  The initial goal will be to secure the two districts on the Rive Sud of the Dôane River.  From there, heavy mortars will cover a river crossing to assault the Rive Nord and drive the Republicans back to Fort Ste. Jeanne.  From there the Parliamentarians hope to simply gas the remaining defenders into submission with Agent Bleu, a deadly paralytic and corrosive.

    The Republican strategy involves defense in depth.  They know the Parliamentarians have access to Agent Bleu, and have greased their guns with petroleum gum and hidden heavy artillery all along the Rive Nord.  They have built blockhouses at key intersections of the city, to cut important streets and allow artillery to be ranged in.  They have also moved heavy armored forces into the Quartier Marin from river boats, and are treating the city like a bocage, with tanks defending key access points while infantry counterattack through the rubble.  Their hope is to cause enough damage to the attacking force that they cannot make headway before winter, as the first snows are only about a month away.  If the Parliamentary forces cannot take Coulondre by the end of the year, the Republicans will have time to organize a counterattack to surround their positions and cut off their supply routes, forcing a surrender, possibly seizing the whole province.

    Rules, as stated above, are Rogue Planet, including the expansions with the campaign system.  With a few modifications, a single campaign of linked, escalating scenarios will represent the fight for each district of the city.    I’m looking forward to giving this a shot.  Will I follow through?  Who knows.  But it’s diverting for a little while.

    #135486

    You could’ve gone with the Quar!

    We get slapped around, but we have a good time!

    #135488
    Mr. Average
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    I could have, except for the fact that I chose not to. 😉

    #135512
    Mr. Average
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    Also (less flippantly) I’m reserving them for “Quarizon Wars,” which I am also working on at the blazing pace of Every Few Years Or So.

    #135525

    Me, too. Just bought into their new 15mm kickstarter.

    We get slapped around, but we have a good time!

    #135526
    Mr. Average
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    I was forced to restrain myself, alas, but the line is super promising!  Maybe when my budget replenishes.

    #135534
    Darkest Star Games
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    Sounds like a good project.  I’ve been tempted to do some urban combat in a deserted city ala “Gone With The Blastwave”.  That to has proceeded at below a snails pace!

    Looking forwards to what to get done!

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #135539
    Mr. Average
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    By the way, long have I been hearing the virtues of gesso as primer for miniatures. I’m underwhelmed so far. But I don’t have spray primer at the moment so what’s a man to do?

    #135588
    Darkest Star Games
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    Yikes, I’d think gesso would be much too thick and would seriously fill in detail.  In the past I’ve used watered-down white acrylic for primer when push came to shove.  20 something years later the paint hasn’t fallen off yet, so might work for others.

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #135597
    madman
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    When I was a teen I did oil painting and we prepared our canvases right from raw cotton on home made frames, rabbit skin glue and gesso. So I am with DSG figuring it being awfully thick. But that was 40 odd years ago so I am sure products have changed.

    I am curious as to what size actions you would be portraying with Rogue Planet rules? Had to look them up, as always wanting to see what is out there, and from what I can see they are small scale skirmish rules. So this makes me think you are either playing small actions to get the feel of the situation, there are so few troops involved a skirmish or few is basically all that is remaining of the forces or I am out to lunch and RP can handle larger units. Curious as to which applies. Thank you.

    I like your idea of using the figures (and terrain?) on hand and not, like me, buying lots more to do not a lot more gaming. Thank you for your posts.

    #135609
    Mr. Average
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    Rogue Planet seems pretty scalable, but my goal is fireteams and a few vehicles, at the moment – probably up to about a platoon per engagement.  The vast majority of forces will be classed as Groups, with various support weapons.  Tanks will be involved, and a few “heroes” to represent commanders, etc.  Gesso, by the way, worked well enough for the time being but I still probably prefer spray primer.  The weather has been dreary, though – far too humid to spray prime, and of course, as I mentioned before I have no flat white primer at the moment.  So any port in a storm.  The main issue is that it’s dense enough that it can form webs over open spots in a miniature so you have to clean them up a bit with a sharp knife.  But it seems to have held enough rendition on the detail to suit my purposes for the moment.

    #135611
    madman
    Participant

    OK I am stupid. Rouge planet has fire team size units (teams of up to say four troopers as a single game entity, like ASL where you treat say a half squad as a single “thing” for all rolls) or like most skirmish games where they may operate as a single entity on a single base but each figure rolls a di(c)e each for attacks, etc.?

    I only play 6mm, OK a few 15s for skirmish, and all my “priming” is spraying the base colour of the figure usually the main colour of the uniform. I almost always use hardware store rattle cans or brush paint for colours not covered in the usual “camouflage” paint available here in Canada. I have no idea why we can’t buy sand but nope. Pain in the but. But khaki covers most uniforms and some of the darker grey primers work well for WWII German uniform grey.

    #135632
    Mr. Average
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    Yeah I usually spray prime with a hard, flat white “rust control” paint, which seals and etches a good surface for acrylics. But frankly for a one off project this is fine – I mixed up some ink washes to exaggerate the details a little and it’ll be okay I think. I base colored the first couple squads last night, and also grabbed some of those Dave Graffam models from Wargame Vault so I can build some terrain worth fighting over in the Coulondrien suburbs. I also dig out some spare bits to make patches of “treacherous” terrain, namely the areas where Agent Bleu has been deployed in combat – it leaves behind toxic byproducts as it leeches into the ground, boiling up with the groundwater and thickening into sludge and off-gassing blue crystals. You don’t want to be around this stuff, trust me.

    #135713
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    First squad of Republicans.

    #135758
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    The first Parliamentary forces.  I like how these figures take on such character based on the color scheme, especially since both of these sides are “good” as well as “bad.”  There’s no preconception of who “should” win.

    #135767
    Tony S
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    Very cool looking figures! Did you actually paint highlights in a 6mm figure? I’d swear you did. I can see why those figures inspired you to concoct this campaign.

    Are the campaign rules in the Rogue Planet rules that are available on Wargames Vault, or are they a different supplement?


    @stephen
    – are you referring to Warlord’s coloured primers? Because they are available in Canada.

    #136052
    Mr. Average
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    The campaign rules are all part of the same package when you get Rogue Planet on Wargame Vault.  There’s a “house rules” supplement that expands on the basic “linked scenario” rules somewhat.

    No Stahlritter force would be complete without armored support.  Here comes a Parliamentarian heavy tank.

    #136054
    Darkest Star Games
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    Great looking stuff man!  I love the 2 different colors for the forces using same gear.  Big fan of this project.

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #136076
    Thomaston
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    I like this. With the map in 3 colors I thought there would be 3 sides.
    Although I like the green Republicans, the red eyes on the Parliamentary makes them look more menacing.
    You almost convinced me to buy some of those.

    Tired is enough.
    I like tiny miniatures

    #136078
    madman
    Participant

    Red eyes, red eyes. I didn’t think we would see you again so spoon.

    #136084
    Rhoderic
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    I love how the worldbuilding/fiction and the actual, physical hobby project come together so beautifully. That’s the heart and soul of the hobby. Kudos!

    #136087
    Thuseld
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    I love how the worldbuilding/fiction and the actual, physical hobby project come together so beautifully. That’s the heart and soul of the hobby. Kudos!

    This is what it is all about for me. I like telling stories with my miniatures. Be it WW2, where the “worldbuilding” is a fictional battlegroup fighting a fictional battle, or sci fi/fantasy where you are actually building a world. Today, in my search for a pack of missing US and Wehrmacht infantry I went through my half painted/painted and never used 28mm fantasy miniatures which has inspired me to start coming up with something for them.

    #136097
    Mr. Average
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    I like this. With the map in 3 colors I thought there would be 3 sides. Although I like the green Republicans, the red eyes on the Parliamentary makes them look more menacing. You almost convinced me to buy some of those.

    Funny you mention three sides, as I’m already considering a third force, done in reds and browns, to represent the “Imperialist” faction.

    #136100
    Tony S
    Participant

    Just saw that Wargames Vault has the rules being used for this project on sale today. Quite a discount actually.

    You can get it for $3, which is hard to resist!

    https://www.wargamevault.com/product/139359/Rogue-Planet?src=DotDem

    #136101
    Thomaston
    Participant

    Thanks, I bought it. Now that I did I’m not sure why I did it.

    Tired is enough.
    I like tiny miniatures

    #136103
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    Why?  So that you can dig out some unused 6mm figures and play along, like I am.

    #136105
    Rhoderic
    Participant

    I expect a series of sourcebooks like the VBCW ones 😛

    #136106
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    Expect, as in, of me? Good heavens! Tall order.

    #136110
    Rhoderic
    Participant

    Colour plates, at least 12 per book. Full uniform guides. Cutaways of tanks showing the interiors. Detailed timelines, maps and applicable depictions of the terrain for all significant battles.

    😛

    #136111
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    I’ll put it on the schedule for, say, 2034?

    #136112
    Rhoderic
    Participant

    Pledged!

    #136118
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    Rereading all the Rogue Planet expansion rules, I am definitely doing a third force – the Imperialists.  They’ll make the “third force,” often called out as the “judge” side in the more Judge Dredd-styled Scenario Generator.  Essentially, the Imperialists will represent the remnants of the Stahlritter government, the rump state still struggling to maintain order as the Guerre Civile spirals out of control.  I’m going to prototype them tonight.

    By the way, still no spray primer but a little bottle of brush-on primer is doing pretty well for me so far.  It needs two or three thin coats but is far better for retaining the details than that gesso stuff.  If I use gesso again I will definitely have to thin it out considerably.

    #136151
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    A little progress.  Heavy armor for the Parliamentarians.  The Imperialists came out a little strange, I’m rethinking their style a bit.

    #136187
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    The first squad of Imperialists, after some color rejiggering.  Originally they had red helmets but it wasn’t working, so I went with black – much more serious.

    I’m batch-painting Republican troops now, including some Grenadiers and an artillery piece.

    #136199
    Thomaston
    Participant

    The contrast looks good. Why did you paint the helmet point on only one of them?

    Tired is enough.
    I like tiny miniatures

    #136219
    Darkest Star Games
    Participant

    He’s special, just like his mama told him, of course!  The other 3 are brothers whose mama didn’t like them much…

    These are looking great!  Sort of surprised you didn’t go with red or purple for the Imperialists as a motif to show their blatant decadence.  If they are, that is.

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #136229
    Mr. Average
    Participant

    Red was too garish, so I settled on rust brown and black as more threatening.  That one pickel on his haube is just showing a touch of the original color underneath.

    Also, “Imperialist” is a misnomer, as the Old State has (or “had”) a President, not an emperor.  More properly it had a council of seven presidents (one for each of the constituent Provinces) as part of the Bundesministerium (the Conseil du Confédération, in the three Southern provinces), one of whom was elected Bundespräsident (Président du Conseil) on a yearly basis.  It did have an empire though, and so the Imperialists are those who remain committed to the Old State and thus are associated with the Stahlritter colonial empire, as well as the disastrously failed border war with Ordovicia (which really IS an Empire, with an Emperor – the Ordovitskaya Imperiya) which led to the current political crisis.

    #136230

    Listening to Mike Duncan’s “Revolutions” podcast might give you some excellent ideas, Mat. Particularly the series on the Haitian Revolution.

    We get slapped around, but we have a good time!

    #136248
    Tony S
    Participant

     That one pickel on his haube is just showing a touch of the original color underneath.

    I thought it was dried blood, from when he stabbed his headgear viciously into the abdomen of a depised Parliamentarian.

    https://www.quora.com/Did-German-soldiers-ever-use-pickelhaube-to-stab-people

     

     

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