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  • #19924
    Ivan Sorensen
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    A bit of advertisement and a bit of fun.
    One thing I miss from RPG forums is someone making some characters and then people discussing what kind of games they might be in.

    So let’s do the same thing:
    I’ll use the war generator from my Company Commander/Brigade Commander rules to get started.

    The year is 1967, the region is central or eastern Europe.

    The war breaks out over resource-control.

    We’ll generate two nation types that are fighting. One is a “super power backed client state”,the other is a “Somewhat benign dictatorship”.

    Since we’re in the depth of the cold war, I’ll roll for alignment as well. Interestingly, the super power client state is “Non Aligned Movement” so their friends and backers are not NATO or WARPAC.
    The benign dictatorship is allied or a client to a Western/Capitalist power.

    Now it’s your turn:
    Suggestions for the names and identifies of the combatants? They CANNOT be actual, real life countries. They CAN be tiny principalities everyone forgot on the map, though, ala Mouse that roared ūüôā

    What does their armies look like? What miniatures will fit?
    How do their uniforms look?

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    #19944
    Just Jack
    Participant

    Commissar,

    Good grief man, that’s a tough one: a non NATO/WarPac superpower backed client state (only China is left, right? ¬†And even that’s sort of hopeful in 1967. ¬†Maybe a regional power?), and a somewhat benign, Western-backed dictatorship? ¬†I could do that, but in Central/Eastern Europe?

    For the latter, how about:
    Bossanova, a (very) small breakaway state from Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, or Romania. ¬†The breakaway was due to a Muslim population in a sea of atheists (communists) and Orthodox Catholics (closeted communists) under the thumb of the USSR. ¬†The United States immediately backs them as the sole non-WarPac aligned nation in the Balkans. ¬†They have a relatively small military, not particularly well trained (though this is being remedied by Western ‘advisors’), but with pretty new gear, courtesy of their former membership in the Warsaw Pact (lots of T-62s an BTRs, MiG-15s). ¬†Uniforms are WarPac.

    For the former, how about:
    Constinaprore, a small island nation that, due to its small size, has been ignored by the USSR, and, due to its proximity to the USSR, is not willing to court the attention of any NATO powers for fear of drawing the wrath of the USSR. ¬†So they are an ally of a regional pariah (someone reasonably strong militarily, but disdained by the bulk of the world; think Israel, apartheid South Africa, Khaddaffi’s Libya, Sueharto’s Indonesia, etc… ¬†I know not all of these are relevant to 1967, so someone come up with one.) which provides them military hardware. ¬†They have a relatively large military, not particularly well trained (though they have advisors from the pariah state, the quality of said advisors is somewhat uneven), but with boatloads of WWII equipment (Shermans, halftracks, M36 TDs, Corsairs, landing ships with LSTs and amtracks). ¬†Uniforms are US WW2.

    Predication: ¬†Apparently Bossanova is an island, or more likely a peninsula or coastal nation on the Adriatic, Aegean, or Black Sea. ¬†Constinaprore had a great economic relationship with Bossanova’s parent country, which allowed for thriving import and export of goods and services, but Bossanova’s secession from its parent leaves Constinaprore without an avenue for commerce. ¬†Or Bossanova’s parent country satisfied Constinaprore’s fresh water/POL needs, but Bossanova, for religious reasons (scratch that, let’s break the stereotype: for economic reasons. ¬†Bossanova must now rely on itself for its needs and can’t afford to export its water/POL), is unwilling to continue that relationship.

    Try that out.

    V/R,
    Jack

    • This reply was modified 6 years ago by Just Jack.
    #19951
    kyoteblue
    Participant

    T-34/85’s and maybe some T-54/55 for tanks.

    #19965
    JozisTinMan
    Participant

    Given the heightened tensions, and vitriolic posturing by the warmongers in Bassanova,¬†Constinaprore would probably upgrade it’s military slightly (paid for by their patron). ¬†Maybe a battalion’s worth of AMX-13’s have been purchased from France, although maintenance is a problem. ¬†They have also purchased some OT-64’s from Poland to keep their Warsaw Pact neighbors happy.

    Also, a squadron of pilots are reportedly training on Mystère IV French fighters purchased surplus from India.

    http://jozistinman.blogspot.com/

    #19966
    JozisTinMan
    Participant

    Meanwhile, a shipment of ex-US M103 Heavy Tanks have been reportedly seen unloading from cargo ships at the main port of Bassanova… The United States Secretary of State would neither confirm nor deny.

    http://jozistinman.blogspot.com/

    #20033
    Just Jack
    Participant

    M-103’s eh? ¬†Good one!

    No one else stepping up though?

    Ivan has to come back at least, it’s his thread!

    V/R,
    Jack

    #20201
    Ivan Sorensen
    Participant

    Hold tight, working on something relevant to your interests ūüôā The proud Free Republic of Bossanova and the principality of Constinaprore will both defend their integrity and national heritage bitterly.

    I’ll knock up a few troop stands tomorrow and see what you guys think. Yes, I do paint occasionally.

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    #20203
    kyoteblue
    Participant

    The Sultanate of Ifat will proudly support Constinaprore …..er for a small fee.

    #20204
    Just Jack
    Participant

    Interesting.  I guess I won by default?  I was hoping that folks much more clever than I would have shown up and come up with some better ideas.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with Bossanova and Constinaprore; obviously I think they’re cool ūüėČ

    Maybe I’ll fight their later battles. ¬†That is to say, they have the fight we’re discussing, say from ’67-’74 or so, then they’re just both worn out and sign an armistice. ¬†Then it flares back up; I figure the fall of the wall/USSR is a good time for Round 2, with updated gear, as that could match what I have in 6mm.

    Cool stuff.

    V/R,
    Jack

    #20209
    Ivan Sorensen
    Participant

    UN observers have spotted what appears to be outdated Sherman tanks arriving on un-marked cargo ships in the Constinaprore harbour city of Monte Keseo.

    A spokesperson for the Constinaprore ministry of defence stated today that the vehicles were spontaneous donations from freedom and economy minded private businessmen all around the world and certainly not Korean war remnants donated by the South Korean military.

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    #20214
    kyoteblue
    Participant

    The Sultan of Ifat has some gently use T-34/85s for sale.

    #20215
    Ivan Sorensen
    Participant

    Complete with 75mm anti-tank round sized ventilation holes for additional comfort in hot spring weather.

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    #20217
    bishnak
    Participant

    I love the idea of this!

    I picked up the Brigade Commander rules recently, and will give them a go on the tabletop soon. But without even playing yet, I already know that the scenario and war generators are pretty cool.

    bish

    bish
    http://tinytanks3mm.blogspot.com.au/

    #20225
    Etranger
    Participant

    Constinaprore is quietly being supported by French commercial interests with an interest in the rich oil fields. (In real life France had withdrawn from NATO and was pursuing a more non-aligned course in the 1960s. There are also historical links with Romania, & being French,they were playing their own game). They have taken the opportunity to unload a lot of Indochina War surplus US material, along with a small amount of more up to date French equipment, to the Constinaprorians.

    The Bossanovan Republic also has an internal enemy in the form of the Bossa Nova National Resistance (BoNNaR), led by Baden Powell de Aquino.

    #20228
    bishnak
    Participant

    Hmmm, interesting! Some M-24s for Constinaprore perhaps…?

    Maybe for the Constinaprore Uhlans? (a light cavalry unit with a rich history, now in a light armoured Recce role)

    • This reply was modified 6 years ago by bishnak.

    bish
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    #20230
    bishnak
    Participant

    On the Bossanova side, I definitely think they need some SU-100s in their Infantry Regiments, like the Egyptians had in ’67. Just because I always liked SU-100s!

    bish
    http://tinytanks3mm.blogspot.com.au/

    #20231
    bishnak
    Participant

    UN observers have spotted what appears to be outdated Sherman tanks arriving on un-marked cargo ships in the Constinaprore harbour city of Monte Keseo. A spokesperson for the Constinaprore ministry of defence stated today that the vehicles were spontaneous donations from freedom and economy minded private businessmen all around the world and certainly not Korean war remnants donated by the South Korean military.

    Maybe the Israelis will advise them on upgrading these relics to Super-Sherman standard, in return for a nominal fee of course?

    bish
    http://tinytanks3mm.blogspot.com.au/

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