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20/03/2015 at 12:53 #20065
Angel Barracks
ModeratorI started 6mm skirmish with a big old heavy chipboard tabletop that was 3’x 3′.
This was nice but potentially a bit too big.Looking around I saw TSS and their 2’x 2′ polystyrene boards, smaller and very light.
I used them for quite a bit, but eventually came to the conclusion that this was a touch too small.So I am trying a 3’x 2′ board.
However not wood as it is too heavy, and not a TSS tile as they don’t do that size.I went and purchased a cheap canvas and some foamboard to pad it with.
I have cut up the foam board with inserts that sit between the frame.
The inserts are not as deep as the frame, but they don’t need to be.
The canvas should have enough give to stop elbows from tearing it, but these inserts are just an added precaution.
Being impatient and concerned about warping, I have used double sided tape to stick the foamboard bits together.£6.00 the canvas, £4.00 the foamboard.
Next up I will get out my trusty B&Q tester pot and give it a base coat!
20/03/2015 at 13:54 #20067Fredd Bloggs
ParticipantI have thought of doing this as well, my plan was to mount 2 canvas back to back (with support) and do a desert scheme on one side and an urban on the other.
20/03/2015 at 14:58 #20072Norm S
ParticipantI did similar here LINK http://battlefieldswarriors.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/pinboard-wargames-for-small-spaces.html
but used a large pinboard and then hot glue gunned panels of form bard onto the rear to stop the board from sinking in the middle. A few months on and it is working fine.
I think the canvas should give you a nice textured surface or at least a nice key if you are adding more texture, but if it is not fully supported below – it will stretch at the points that you put pressure on it and those stretch marks will remain.
20/03/2015 at 17:33 #20079kyoteblue
ParticipantNow that I am in my G/F new house, I have the room for my 4×6 table. I also am thinking of building a 4×4 for skirmish gaming. I have a 3×3 box to play 5CC .
20/03/2015 at 18:32 #20082Angel Barracks
Moderatorbut used a large pinboard and then hot glue gunned panels of form bard onto the rear to stop the board from sinking in the middle.
Yeah that was my goal for awhile but finding pin boards that were cheap and big enough proved tricky..
Anywho….
I undercoated it fine, then ruined it!The problem was that I knew the paint would dry quite quickly which meant I would have to do it in sections.
The problem was that I would slap some paint on the quickly sprinkle flock over the paint.
That was ok, but when I came to paint the section next to it the brush would go over the flocked section and make it go clumpy.
So I ended up with a nice smooth surface except for where the sections met and here there is a bumpy ridge.I spent a while trying to scrape the old flock off but it is too much of a pain.
So I am off to Hobbycraft shortly to buy another canvas.I am thinking about maybe adding some PVA to the paint and watering it down a bit to prevent it from drying so quickly….
21/03/2015 at 13:23 #20112Fredd Bloggs
ParticipantIf you have one close, ‘the works’ can be cheaper than Hobbycraft. You may also be able to sand the lumps down, and if that is all still an issue, try a paint retarder and give it a flat coat before the grit coat as some of the drying speed will be down to the canvas absorbency.
21/03/2015 at 16:27 #20114Thaddeus Blanchette
ParticipantThat is how I did my panels: styrofoam backing in between the bracing.
The advantage of this system is that you can use my non-patented stick-pin method of holding terrain down on it. Flock some tacks and stick-pins as trees and bushes and use them to pin down mobile terrain pieces.
The holes the pins leave are hardly noticeable and you can always paint of flock over them ever three or four games or so if they really irritate you.
We get slapped around, but we have a good time!
21/03/2015 at 16:53 #20117willz
ParticipantLike both ideas, I was thinking of doing similar myself. Cheers for sharing.
21/03/2015 at 19:27 #20129Angel Barracks
ModeratorSo the second attempt is better.
I used the paint with PVA and water mixed in, it took longer to dry and gave me time to get a base coat on and covered in flock whilst still wet.Once this was dry I did a second layer of scatter.
I did this by using an eye/ear dropper and applying a PVA/water/washing up liquid over the board and sprinkling the second layer on.Here you can see the second layer almost done and a corner that shows the initial layer of flock still to get its second coat.
Here is the second layer done.
After this I will add a few bits of sand and grass and then a final sealing layer of PVA/water/washing up liquid.
22/03/2015 at 19:27 #20182Angel Barracks
Moderator22/03/2015 at 19:38 #20183Fredd Bloggs
ParticipantIt looks like tarmac, excellent.
22/03/2015 at 19:40 #20184Angel Barracks
Moderator25/03/2015 at 11:56 #20467Angel Barracks
Moderator25/03/2015 at 13:00 #20481Angel Barracks
Moderator25/03/2015 at 13:19 #20484Earther
ParticipantLooking good! Consider the idea pilfered.
25/03/2015 at 13:45 #20491kyoteblue
ParticipantWowzer!!
25/03/2015 at 14:19 #20497Thaddeus Blanchette
ParticipantVERY nice, Mike.
We get slapped around, but we have a good time!
25/03/2015 at 14:21 #20498Mike
KeymasterVERY nice, Mike.
It would be a great size for a full on 3mm battle methinks.
25/03/2015 at 17:20 #20514Norm S
ParticipantIs there any give still in the canvas? it looks pretty rigid from the shots.
25/03/2015 at 19:24 #20523Angel Barracks
ModeratorIs there any give still in the canvas? it looks pretty rigid from the shots.
There is a bit but it should totally useable.
I lent on part of it to take the shots.
The foam boards stop it from giving too much but it does a little.I would recommend giving it a go.
28/03/2015 at 20:19 #20780Cerdic
ParticipantThat looks really effective in use! What sort of flock did you use?
28/03/2015 at 20:25 #20782Angel Barracks
Moderator06/08/2015 at 22:36 #28833PaintingLittleSoldiers
ParticipantI found a canvas\cork notice board in the local hardware store that is 4×2 – I might buy it and then dye\spay the canvas dark green (the colours were red of blue) or simply upholster it with an existing felt sheet.
26/08/2015 at 15:55 #29945Sane Max
ParticipantThat DOES look excellent
I gave some serious thought to just using a sheet of Polystyrene with a few strengthening ribs, but always assumed someone would lean on it eventually. But yours will be light but resilient.
How taut did you make the canvas?
26/08/2015 at 16:00 #29947Angel Barracks
Moderator26/08/2015 at 16:12 #29949Sane Max
Participant‘ish’ eh? that’s good. what I was groping for was – do figures jump around when someone rolls a big dice on the board?
26/08/2015 at 16:27 #29951Angel Barracks
Moderator26/08/2015 at 16:46 #29952Sane Max
Participant‘k, I was just pondering shamelessly stealing your idea, but making my own frame and then covering it with teddybear fur. make some 2by4 frames and edge them with velcro….
26/08/2015 at 16:51 #29954Angel Barracks
ModeratorI guess the fur will blend with adjacent sections quite well and fairly seamlessly, would it be easier, to buy some ready made canvas frames and glue the fur on?
You will get the canvas support under the fur too that way.You can get some pretty mahoosive canvas jobs from the Hobbycraft.
Anyway, please do share, oh and pics or it never happened!
😉
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