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  • #3659
    Ivan Sorensen
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    In western armies, present day, is there usually a designated medic in each squad, are they attached from higher levels or how does that work?

    Thanks in advance!

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    #3696
    Jurgen Leistner
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    Ivan,

    I am not sure about other Western armies but for Bundeswehr Panzergrenadier units, a medic is attached at the Zug (platoon) level.  However, all of the soldiers are, of course, trained to give emergency aid.

    Jurgen

    #4240
    GeoffQRF
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    Is an individual medical figure required (i.e. With additional medic bag) or do people just use a suitably marked or painted standard figure?

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    #4478
    Brian Weathersby
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    Geoff,

    I like the fact that the Vietnam miniatures makers put a medic in their platoon packs.  Having said that, I still use a differently shaped base and markings for my medics.

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    #4495
    Ivan Sorensen
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    Is an individual medical figure required (i.e. With additional medic bag) or do people just use a suitably marked or painted standard figure?

    Personally, I like a figure that is visibly a medic. If you were trying to make a pack out of it, why not make it something like 2 medics and 6 casualties?

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    #4496
    Jurgen Leistner
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    Geoff,

    My Chinese have a medic figure, because Empress make one; my Bundeswehr, Soviet and British just have normal figures, with one designated as a medic for the game.  My PMC figures do not have medics:).

    Jurgen

    #4497
    Ivan Sorensen
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    Now that you mention it, the only actual medic figure I think I own is a scifi guy: One of the Rusk figures by Armies Army.

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    #4500
    GeoffQRF
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    If you were trying to make a pack out of it, why not make it something like 2 medics and 6 casualties?

    Hmm, liking that idea…

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    #4510
    Ivan Sorensen
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    If you wanted more variety in the pack, throw in a surrendered trooper or two. I’d love to have some as “broken morale” markers. Trying to transition from using counters to some sort of models instead.

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    #4576
    Shawn Carpenter
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    As Jurgen notes, most modern forces have a medic/corpsman assigned at the platoon level. Individual troops at the squad level receive varying degrees of “buddy-care” training depending on the type of unit. Troops in most First World line rifle units generally have solid training in first aid and immediate stabilization techniques, while the average member of US Special Forces team has enough training to qualify as a medic in their own right.

    I’m a huge fan of figures being used to show statuses rather than counters, too. I’d love to see figures that could be used to indicate casualties, morale effects, etc., a’la many of Peter Pig’s games. Much nicer to look at than a chit on the table!

    Shawn.

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    #4582
    Altius
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    I play Cold War Commander and Future War Commander, which represents a higher level than skirmish. There are rules for using medic/evac units and I try to include those in the armies that I build.

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    #4645
    kyoteblue
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    My BF Americans for Viet Nam have both a Medic and casualty figures at the Company level.

    #5412
    Michael Moore
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    In The US Army each Bn has a Medical platoon with a senior Aid man at Company and each Platoon having a Aidman. At BN you would find the BN Aid Station which includes a treatment section and Evacuation section. During war time the BAS can form two seperate facilities with one led by the Doctor (present during wartime) and the other by the Physicians Assistant.

    At least one member of each fire team is trained in advance life saving with the others having basic medical training….Mikey

    #5542
    Yukon5G
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    To piggy back on what Mikey said, the modern US Army platoon has a dude sliced down from BN. We mobilized with two medics attached to our platoon. Once we hit the FOB, they were taken away to man the Troop Medical Clinic, though.

    Individual soldiers will have a minimum of basic assessment and stabilization. Every joe will know how to put on a combat tourniquet. At least two guys in a squad will probably also have Combat Life Saver training. Depending on the exact timeframe you’re gaming, the exact level of training these guys get will vary. When I did CLS prior to deployment, it was a full 40-hour course and included basic triage, setting IVs and locks, airway management and bleed control. Now it’s a 16-hour course.

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    #5599
    Ivan Sorensen
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    All good info, thanks!

    As it stands in the rules I am working on, I am permitting any soldier to help treat a wounded for the purpose of the battle, but dedicated medics can do so easier and faster.

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    #5638
    Yukon5G
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    If you’re injured enough to need buddy care, let alone a dedicated medic, you’re probably out of the fight except in the most dire circumstances. Better to use medics for morale effects than returning a figure magically to the game.

    Sink meh!

    #5642
    Ivan Sorensen
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    That is exactly how it works in my game 😉

     

    Untreated wounded act as a penalty to morale checks.

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