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  • #60737
    Avatar photoNot Connard Sage
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    I’m looking for a Greek monoreme (think Argo), absolute scale isn’t important but it needs to be ~150mm.

     

    Any ideas? Please don’t suggest biremes/triremes/quin…etc. They won’t ‘do’

     

    TIA πŸ™‚

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    #60738
    Avatar photoMike
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    That’s a big fella. Is there a scale it is intended for?

    May help me narrow down the search.

    #60741
    Avatar photoNot Connard Sage
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    absolute scale isn’t important

    πŸ˜‰

    I have no idea how long the average Greek monoreme was, but 150mm is ~6″ which scales to 150′ in 1:300. Which seems a bit on the large side to be propelled by a single bank of oarsmen a side, given that the longest Viking ship found is 120′, and Viking longships weren’t as heavy as Greek warships.

    So, a monoreme about 150mm long. Call it 1:150 πŸ˜€

     

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    #60743
    Avatar photoMr. Average
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    I think “monoreme” is a neologism for either a tirakonteros or a pentekonteros, which is the open-topped “Epic” period galleys that you’re thinking of?Β  They predate the high classical triremes, anyway.Β  So you’d be talking about a range of length between thirty and fifty oars, so probably about 100 to 120 feet, at scale?

    These might be a good start:

    http://www.skullncrown.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73_74_82&products_id=240

    They’d need modding, though, since they’re medieval, not classical.Β  But I think a little bit of balsa wood would set them to rights.Β  If I understand the model right it’s 1:300, so 6mm crew would work.

    #60744
    Avatar photoMike
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    #60749
    Avatar photoRod Robertson
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    NCS:

    Essex makes some ancient ships in 15mm and an Achaean crew. Here is a picture of the ship with an Egyptian crew. Some modification might be needed but it could pass for a dojo tor or a pentikontor I suppose.

    BOAT 3 Middle Eastern Boat with single furled sail, suitable for most Biblical armies.

    I built and painted two of these for a gaming buddy and the ships were about 130 mm long and about 120 mm tall.

    There are also paper/card-stock models of the Argos available but the smallest I saw was between 200-225 mm in length if I estimated it correctly.

    http://www.papercraftsquare.com/jason-argonauts-detailed-argo-free-ship-paper-model-download.html

    Cheers and best of luck in your search.

    Rod Robertson.

    #60781
    Avatar photoNot Connard Sage
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    Thanks for your input all.

    It’s a Stronghold for my HotT Argonauts if you’re interested. It will be well under scale for 28mm miniatures, but a true scale Argo would be around 500mm long by my figuring which is a little on the large side πŸ™‚

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    #60792
    Avatar photoMike Headden
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    At sixty quid it’s not cheap but Magister Militum have a 15mm Mycenaean Galley that would fit the bill.

    https://www.magistermilitum.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=mycenaean+ship

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    #60805
    Avatar photoNot Connard Sage
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    Too large I’m afraid. And too expensive πŸ™‚

     

    So is this. http://www.grandmanner.co.uk/Jasons_Argo–product–619.html

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