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  • #142926
    OB
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    For the first time in years I bought a Wargames Magazine.  The reason was Andy Callan’s Never Mind The Billhooks WOTR rules are included as a Freeby.

    I’m very pleased I did so.  Never Mind The Billhooks (NMTBH) is an excellent stand alone rule set.  There are many influences at play.  Cards and Army Morale Points remind me of Piquet.  Saving throws that improve with armour have a venerable history.  The whole is seemlessly worked together to produce a fast moving game.

    There’s a review on my blog if NMTBH if its of interest to you.  I’ve also made up some stats for Galloglaich and Irish Horse if you want to extend operations to Ireland.

    https://youdonotknowthenorth.blogspot.com

    OB
    http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/

    #142937
    Jim JackamanJim Jackaman
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    If I had some WotR figures to pay this with I’d definitely give it a look…sounds really good.

    Maybe I can get hold of some card figures / units instead, possibly the ones from the Peter Dennis paper wargaming book?

    #142961
    OB
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    They would do the trick.  I didn’t have any figures either so I’ve ordered some 15mm WOTR from QRF.

    OB
    http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/

    #142964
    Tony STony S
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    Just read through them, and I’d have to agree with your assessment (with the all important caveat that I have not yet played it of course)!  That said, in this era I’m much more interested in the goings on across the Channel in the Duchy of Burgundy.   The rules look like great fun, and would work perfectly for Charles the Bold.

    Although…in one of those oddly all-too-common moments of unusual serendipity, I’m currently reading an account of a campaign of a “what-if” set in 1539, which assumes the Franco-Imperial alliance actually held together long enough for Charles V and Francis I to invade England as they had planned to do so historically.

    Very tempting indeed!

     

    #142968
    OB
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    Yes, I have a bunch of pike men that could be the basis of a Burgundian array.  Some of the livery colours seem to re occur in various forces too.  Lots of good quality free flags and banners about too.  All good.

    OB
    http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/

    #142993
    Jim JackamanJim Jackaman
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    I also wondered if they would work with 3mm/2mm figures, replacing individual figures with blocks of infantry and cavalry?

    #142997
    OB
    Participant

    As long as each unit is allocated the same number of dice as the original scale it should by fine Jim.   Mind you I’m as new to the game as anyone.  Still, I cannot see a hole in that.

    OB
    http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/

    #143875
    OB
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    I’ve made a start on the painting.  Lancastrians first, Percy and Ormond.

     

    OB
    http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/

    #143891
    Norm SNorm S
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    Agree with your warm welcome to these rules, there is much to enjoy and some of the goodness really only comes out during play.

    I am Ok with the Knights values. There are only 8 of them to the unit and they can only charge twice. In both of my games, they have been roughly handled, so the balance seems ok at this point …….. but you know what will happen now in game 3 🙂

    #143928
    OB
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    Yeah, I think the balance is fine too  A quality product in my view and it got me into the WOTR.  15mm for me of course.

    OB
    http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/

    #144129
    DaveH303
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    Thanks for the review. Looks like an interesting set and as it seems to be driven by bases rather than individual figures I can see how I could use it with smaller scale blocks for the WotR.

     

    #144137
    OB
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    The rules suggest removing figures from a sabot base.  I’m just going to keep track of the casualties until until I can remove a base.

    OB
    http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/

    #144153
    OB
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    Just finished the Yorkist mounted Men at Arms.  The project is coming together.

    Never mind the bill hooks

    OB
    http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/

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