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  • #171735
    Avatar photoOotKust
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    Call me old fashioned, but not an antique…

    I wrote something yesterday but the site ate it, so here’s the link without much boasting to go with it. My Minifigs© 25mm French (in name anyway) and an array of ‘Allied’ forces from 1805.

    On Flickr :- https://tinyurl.com/davew-Flickr-Collection

    Feel free to let me know what you think, or ask… anything,

    😉 cheers dave

     

    #171738
    Avatar photowillz
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    Vey nice looking Napoleonic’s,  very cool looking display of fine figures.

    #171739
    Avatar photoGeneral Slade
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    I love Minifigs.  It’s a great-looking collection.

    #171743
    Avatar photoOotKust
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    Thanks gents, I’ll use this thread to post more WIP as and when, like the token ‘cuckoo’ for the 2/ 26 Legere:-

    2-26 Legere

    The figures were actually painted and based two decades ago! Mea Culpa!

    ~dave

    #171744
    Avatar photoAndrew Beasley
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    The first wargaming shop I ever went to used to sell Minifigs out of cardboard boxes and had the full catalog you could thumb through to order from. Amazingly, he (Mr Toyne – I was too young to use his first name) would order single figures for you if you wanted and zero P&P charge.

    Spent most of my money of VFW / LOTR but remember the friends (and older players) getting excited when ‘the big order’ arrived by post and was unpacked in the shop – felt like hundreds of these figures went off the shelves (well counter) in minutes.

    I remember the dismay when the figure price increased to over 10p each – was real bad news to the fantasy players on limited money but never really stopped the Napoleonic players!!!

    #171748
    Avatar photoOotKust
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    Hi Andrew,

    Appreciate the comments.

    We didn’t have a ‘local’ store, well it was mostly railways… but I suspect the same level of excitement occurred when we received a new little brown box in the ‘post’ from the UK. Had to buy bloody ‘Postal Notes’ in £1-5 designations as overseas currency was restricted until the late 70s.

    Some of these figures ARE actually from that vintage, I’ve never sold off Minifigs (except a few non-French) since I decided to ‘concentrate’ on a French army- we had damn all of them but myriads of Brits- so I wasn’t going there any more! Damn colonials!

    There are actually a lot more units comprising the ‘army’ as such, I’ll have to detail what that is since my ‘other’ posts are all but sanctioned!

    cheers

    dave

     

    #171793
    Avatar photoTony S
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    There’s something quite appealing about the simplicity and smoothness of Minifigs.   Very clean.

    I’ve got some figures twenty years old too…but not painted or based, so there’s no need for your “mea culpa”!  🙂

    #171796
    Avatar photoOotKust
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    There’s something quite appealing about the simplicity and smoothness of Minifigs. Very clean. I’ve got some figures twenty years old too…but not painted or based, so there’s no need for your “mea culpa”! 🙂

    Yes Tony thanks! But that ‘simplicity and smoothness ‘ has begun to wear off a touch. I actually find myself excited when painting samples for my ‘allies’- which are all 28mm based opposition (WF/ CRM/Eureka now), but compatible for use with the Minifigs.

    And if anyone is asking WHY?- I simply point to the 45 year investment into them!. I do enjoy the research and customisation I do, perhaps not great modelling, but efficient, in the mode of museum historicals- they’re all individuals!

    cheers dave

     

    #172063
    Avatar photoBrian the Kiwi
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    Thank you for sharing photos of such well turned out troops! I will certainly go back to your photos when I am looking for some inspiration!

    #172077
    Avatar photoOotKust
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    Thank you for sharing photos of such well turned out troops! I will certainly go back to your photos when I am looking for some inspiration!

    Well thank you Brian, that’s the kindest form of support for my eccentricities!

    I really should build up the ‘back catalogue’ though as there’s a lot of prior work that hasn’t been documented and perhaps hasn’t seen any action for a long while either. They do get out but often it’s smaller games and play-tests that don’t involve large numbers.

    Do we know each other? I was once part of the ‘conventions curcuit’ having been active from Auckland to Canterbury and a quite few places in between, but mostly back in 80-early 90’s before I got a management job and had to put in a good show.

    regards

    davew

    #172554
    Avatar photoOotKust
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    Well, even as modelling waxes and wanes, I have to keep moving so heres another Frankenstein moment as a line chasseur officer is ‘migrated’ to a Guard chasseur in undress (ie the habit/ second dress), done Friday:-

    WIP Chasseur Officer

    Stage 2 is to add the required aiguilette and then assemble which I did last night and is drying. I’ll then undercoat, possibly with or without mount, though I’ve found I prefer former version now as it gives one more area to ‘grip’ a wet figure and not spoil anything. Horses are easy when left till last!

    The other officer will also lose his head shortly and be depicted wearing his pelisse, much as ADCs would do as ‘hard riding’ young men. Again he’ll be a Guard Chasseur.

    As you probably know many young/ junior regimental officers were seconded to ‘staff’ duties within the Garde and also the Etat-Major-Generale (Berthiers’ Grande-Armée General HQ).

    cheers dave

    #175692
    Avatar photoOotKust
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    A simple update of a set of Imperial Etat-Major ADC’s and the beheaded figure above.

    Imperial ADCs 2022

    The ‘important’ chaps are (Minifigs 25mm)- Capt. Lejeune (yes the painter) and Capt. Girardin- both ADC’s attached with Mal.Berthier however rubber-banded to the main man; the Chasseurs officer becoming an ADC to Bessieres; well naturally!

    I particularly like the lighter shade of ‘blue’ on Girardin, by using a white base then a thinner wash of blue, rather than solid pigment. No pretence they are anywhere near finished, but doing this helps me ‘formulate’ my command vignettes. Lejeunes uniform is that depicted by Bucquoy in his series (for 1806 so it was probably a replacement!).

    Just to show my favour has spread, heres my CRM ex-WF castings for the Russian 3rd Artillery Regiment, for Miloradovics corps at Austerlitz. These were just 6 pounders but anything can be used when necessary.

    Russian Artillery company

    cheers ~d

    #176114
    Avatar photoOotKust
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    ©dww_2022

    Napoleon- The Leadership Team

    Napoleons youthful ‘age’ is often benchmarked as significant, compared to his military opponents, and very often this is accurate.

    However, he was a man of due diligence and perspicacity himself, and used those around him who suited, no matter their age or origins.
    Such is the case when considering his army, and more importantly, those he chose as leaders.

    As I am modelling a French 1805 Corps, plus ‘supports’, I’ve taken to maintaining a register of those most important in the hierarchy, and the models I will use to create these men. Let me remind you that my ‘commands’ in gaming terms are 1:1; that is each named individual is present with each leader- if they have two or three ADC’s, I depict them all.

    The few characteristics based around important dates, relate core competency, promotion and durations and awards.

    Using 1805 and Napoleons age in the campaign, just 36 years old, thus I measure those around him. This is important when selecting suitable other models for officers, aides and support characters I suppose one could call them.

    I was surprised when I reviewed some of the ‘elders’ of the Imperial group, so will just restrict myself here to the top most and basic data for them. Some are extremely common names, others not so much.

    Note that in my research [and therefore descriptions] I do not subscribe to the common form of applying a persons maximum role, rank or dignitary status at some future point. To take that to its’ logical conclusion, one would always then refer to Napoleon as the ex-Emperor of France. I do not bother with most dates and events after 1807 (the critical end of my interests).

    Officers Aged 50 and Over

    Berthier- Louis-Alexandre Age: 52 Born July 1753 Enlisted Jan-1766 (Geo-Engineers) and subsequently promoted General 1796. He served in the American Colonies, subsequently as ADC to LaFayette 1780. He was when promoted placed due to his overt abilities as Chef d’état-major in 1796 in the Armée d’Italie.

    He lead, controlled and organised the highest command group under Napoleon- the Etat Major-Generale (Army General Staff), and as such held the unique rank, literally, of Major-Général of the Army. Alongside which from time to time he combined such a role and knowledge, with the ‘administrative’ role of Minister of War. As such, and Marshal of the Empire, he held the Grand-Cordon of the Legion d’honneur from 1804.

    Dumas- Mathieu Age: 52 Born November 1753 Enlisted in 1773 in the Genie and promoted General of Division only in 1805, due to his post I imagine. He also served in the American Colonies and ADC to Rochambeau 1780 so clearly was a well known associate to Berthier in war.

    In the Grande Armée he was placed in command, as one of three highly respected individuals called ‘Aides-Majors Generaux’ who each were ranked as Adjutant-Commandants whilst simultaneously holding their ranks of General of Division, to the Second (2eme) Section (Maréchal des logis) of the EM-G. He held the Commandeurs Cross of the Legion d’honneur from 1804.

    Belfort- Jacques Renard (!) Age: 52 Born December 1753 Enlisted in Apr-1770 in the Royal Cavalry and was still a Colonel in 1805 of the 12e Cuirassier Regiment.
    He was awarded for his actions during the campaign and Austerlitz the Commandeurs Cross of the Legion d’honneur AND promoted General de Brigade in the post Austerlitz recognition of 26 December 1805 (we better not call it ‘Christmas’ as it apears it wasn’t at the time). The ‘awards’ happened to coincide with his 53rd birthday. The Division (Nansoutys’ First Heavy Cavalry) was subsequently in pursuit of the Russians. He was one of the oldest cavalry commanders in the army. Great name btw, Jacques the fox! However strangely, he is not inscribed on the Arc de Triomphe!

    Ordener- Michel Age: 55 Born September 1755 Enlisted in Jan 1773 in the Royal dragoons and served across a variety of regiments in all ranks. Distinguished in 1800 in the Army of the Rhine he was subsequently promoted to command the Grenadiers à Cheval of the Garde Consulaire. Promoted to General de Brigade (as were all Garde ‘Colonels’) and made Commandeur of the Legion d’honneur June 1804. Grievously wounded at Austerlitz, he was promoted General de Division in the post Austerlitz recognition of 26 December 1805.
    Unable to recover from wounds, he retired from the military to civil occupation before dying in 1811.

    Piston- Joseph Age: 51 Born in 1754 Enlisted in 1791 in the Royal Cavalry and joined his new home as Gen de Brigade to the Carabiniers in 1793! In June 1804 he was awarded Commandeur of the Legion d’honneur and remained in command of the 1er (Carabinier) Brigade of Nansoutys’ 1er Heavy Cav Division. Post Austerlitz he was promoted GDV and he retired in 1808.

    Scalfort- Nicholas Age:53 Born February 1752 Enlisted in Apr-1788 in Royal Cavalry and became a General de Brigade August 1803 at the Army of the Coast. Awarded Commandeur of the Legion d’honneur June 1804. Leading the 2eme Brigade of the 3eme Division des Dragons (Gen de Division Beaumont) he performed better than more junior officers.

    These are some of the senior officers who ran and led some of the critcal formations of the Grande Armée.
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    cheers

    #177829
    Avatar photoOotKust
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    Weary of the ‘old’ commands and gaming generalship, and of course encouraged by gamers using advanced modelling artistic licence, I decided to produce my own senior command scenery as well.

    A vignette for a particular instance- Marshal Davouts early morning arrival near Austerlitz. Why him? Well I could spin a yarn, but I’ve made myself a golden rule- no troops without commanders ANY MORE! [Had far to many in the old days].

    So when my ‘New Right Wing’ started to take form, enthused very much by Bob Goetz new (now old) Austerlitz 1805, I challenged myself to produce a ‘draft’ version of what my ultimate commands would look like.

    Thus the Marshal, lain in wait for 3 decades to get a job [ie beyond a cosmetic paint job), has been customised (Minifgs) and had a core of ‘support’ added. Not your usual officer laden bumph- his younger brother was a Colonel and ADC; an escort from the 1er Dragons, both a trumpeter for signalling and a veteran acting as close defense with musket ready; and a ‘Polish’ liaison officer who acted as local interpreter, and/ or knew the geography well to act as guide.

    Thus at some 7:30am on December 2 1805, the marshal halts at a stream bank to observe events before crossing. Apologies it has no depth of field to clearly show the figures that are, 99% finished with a few touch ups to follow.

    Marshal Davout (2022)

    A shot from the back gives a clearer view of the elements involved:

    ==>> 502 Bad Gatewaycloudflare so pic wont load right now.

    regards -dave

    #177837
    Avatar photoOotKust
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    In view of the IT problems experienced [trying to ‘edit’ a posted topic] I’ll just try throwing the ‘from behind’ view up now as a separate post- done very quickly…

    davew

    #179999
    Avatar photoOotKust
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    Just thought I’d post an update, with atmosphere…

    Marshal Davout contemplates,lurking in the bushes on the raised embankment, the proposed route across the parallel stream that runs North-South from the Turas high Plains (to the West of the Goldbach), approaching Tellnitz about 7.00am on 2 December 1805.

    Mal Davout Etat-Major 1805

     

    He will soon after crossing with his scant command party, be met by an officer of the 8eme Hussars who is riding hard to inform him that the 3eme de ligne is hard pressed defending the town by enemy, Austrians it seems.

    He will send an ADC officer forward to see for himself, while Davout returns to the marching Brigade commanded by Heudelet de Biere, an experienced regimental (demi-brigade) leader and General, some few kilometres back near the Turas High road, marching somewhat toward Sokolnitz.

    Once Heudelet de Biere receives the verbal instructions from his Marshal, with conditions depending upon what the ADC finds, Davout goes back along the route to hurry along and direct his other Divisional troops under Friant across country North of the ‘lake’ (another settling pond really) Ottmarau that will lie in their path and on to Sokolnitz. Heudelet will not reach Tellnitz until approximately 0800. The men will have marched 10kms in 3 hours, with a triple ration of eau-de-vie issued.

    With Heudelet de Bieres’ brigade moving off at a ‘pas de course’ fast pace* in columns; Davout also sends the rest of the detached 1er Dragons in support under command of Heudelet.

    Later when he encounters the 4eme Division des Dragons under Bourcier (Sahuc being the senior Brigadier), he detaches their artillerie-legere peloton (3 pieces) to also follow  Heudelet to Tellnitz. They arrive to succour Heudelets brigade from disaster about 0815.

    Meanwhile, taking a swift repas whilst the Division passes, now directed across country, he arranges with Friant the march directly on Sokolnitz. It will be two hours before they arrive.

    *According to John Cook Esq. from ‘First Empire’ 150 paces per minute. I believe they took a 5 minute rest after 55 minutes march. Redressing the ranks and allowing stragglers to catch up, they were off again 5 minutes later.

    Hopefully he will see action this Summer…

    regards dave

    #180856
    Avatar photoOotKust
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    Three years ago [2019] I decided to kick myself into gear and get tose damn lead piles moving.

    Well I tried in various ways- modern research required to not only find out what I’d missed but also if things had changed- surely not? How could history change???

    So one of those formations that I’d partly planned was Oudinots Grenadiers de la Reserve [1805]. I had some voltigeurs done, but not whole battalions as we believe they existed.

    Nowadays I rely on a spreadsheet to define who, which and what units wore, as best I could. Who had ‘those’ companies; who wore bearskins; which version of uniforms should be depicted; and the biggy- was it true that the entire Division adopted shakoes after the salient reports on the miserable appearance of men in rain soaked ‘chapeau’ in moderate Brittany and Pas-de-Calais?

    Well I pumped up a couple of battalions- who knows why I started with the Second Regiment [81e de ligne bon]-

    and [9eme de ligne bon]

    Well, if theres no current progress, at least I have the memories…

    cheers dave

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