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  • #191387
    Avatar photoIdle Doodler
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    Been in one of those hobby slumps of late (well, a tactile hobby slump – I also blame Tears of the Kingdom and Shadows of Doubt for being seductive uses of time). The most recent sustained spurt of mini-ing had been putting together a travel-friendly 6mm collection but found trying to make scatter terrain for it something of an enthusiasm-sapping road bump.

    So I return to a 15mm collection whose progress got disrupted by the release of 5 Leagues from the Borderlands.

    I chickened out of basing the majority of them – my least favourite aspect of the hobby – since all the Ground Zero Games minis were pretty uniform, but in the time since then a few have suffered from storage and travel in a way my magnetised 15mm fantasy and 6mm sci fi minis have not.

    So I’ve bitten the bullet and chopped them all up, ready for a marathon basing session or four.

    I’m sure it will be worth it…

    #191391
    Avatar photoTony S
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    Wow!  That’s some mighty fine painting!  Are those all from GZG?  I know the final photo of those Crusties are, but where are the others from?  I can’t seem to find them on the GZG, although some of the photos there are quite old and low resolution.

    #191401
    Avatar photoIdle Doodler
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    Thanks!

    The majority of them are Ground Zero Games (the Crusties and all the humans/bots, largely from the civilian and human characters lists) but a few are from an ebay job lot. The first three alien photos come from Alternative Armies. I thought the snakemen were from Ral Partha but having just looked to check, the minis look quite different. Maybe they’ve updated their Critical Mass range? If not, I’ve no idea where they’re from!

    #191406
    Avatar photoDarkest Star Games
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    Great looking collection you have going there!  I too need to go back and do the old magnetized base thing for my 15mm troops.  Nothing worse than trying to fix some chipping from them getting knocked around in transport and it coming out looking even worse!

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #191448
    Avatar photoIdle Doodler
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    It takes a lot for me to get over my sheer distaste for basing, but yeah, not having to cover up the chips and scratches from a journey will fall under that umbrella.

    My 6mm stuff has yet to require any paint reapplication despite suffering the whims of public transport. These tins are just wonderful and, with 21mm depth, can accommodate most of my 15mm minis. Any particularly tall ones should be able to clip to the sides instead.

    #191450
    Avatar photoLogain
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    That looks like the original pack of snake men in Critical Mass’ line of Mercenaries. They were so popular a few of them were made into separate full lines – but Ral still has the first sets in with the mercs.

    #191481
    Avatar photoian pillay
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    That’s a cracking painted collection of 15mm goodness. I like the silver cybermen looking guys and the SG1 team.
    where are those tins from?

    Tally-Ho! Check out my blog at…..
    http://steelcitywargaming.wordpress.com/

    #191502
    Avatar photoIdle Doodler
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    That looks like the original pack of snake men in Critical Mass’ line of Mercenaries. They were so popular a few of them were made into separate full lines – but Ral still has the first sets in with the mercs.

    Ah, great – I thought I’d seen them on the site. Just hadn’t scrolled through enough of the merc line.

    That’s a cracking painted collection of 15mm goodness. I like the silver cybermen looking guys and the SG1 team. where are those tins from?

    Thanks! Tins just came from Amazon. They’ve withstood pretty well being crammed into any available luggage space and, speaking as someone who’s sworn off borrowing other folks’ books for fear of property damage, if they can survive my hamfisted packing, they’re pretty well made!

    #191528
    Avatar photoCacique Caribe
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    ID

    Welcome back to the one true scale!

    your painted figures are so inspiring.  Now I need to get busy with my GZG figures (militia, cops, colonists, etc).  I’ve had them stored up, unpainted, for much too long.

    Thanks so much for sharing those awesome painted photos!

    Dan
    Loads of WIPs: https://www.flickr.com/photos/9593487@N07/albums/with/72157710630529376

    #191563
    Avatar photoIdle Doodler
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    Regrettably I too have left some of my GZG minis in storage for too long – more specificably the duplicate civilians and ravagers are stashed away somewhere very safe, too safe for me to know where. In my wisdom, I evidently decided to separate them from the rest of the reserves…

    Sluggish pace on the basing. Got some done across the two rugby matches yesterday. Here’s hoping the basing mix is still good for today’s quarter finals.

    #191565
    Avatar photoAndrew Beasley
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    Congrats on the progress – I have two figure bases to do and keep putting them off!

    If I leave them till I have a few more figures to do and I feel its worth getting all the bits out I’m then faced with a pile and less liable to do them…

    Maybe I should try putting rugby on?

    #191571
    Avatar photoTony S
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    Ha!  Thought I was the only one to lose figures that I know I bought and carefully stored somewhere.

    (Although I must pat myself in the back – quite honestly inspired after seeing your lovely figures, I rummaged around and actually found some old Laserburn 15mm crew and civilian types that I had).

    #191594
    Avatar photoJim Webster
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    Your post is inspirational and reminded me of why I love the one true scale 🙂

    https://jimssfnovelsandwargamerules.wordpress.com/

    #191623
    Avatar photoDarkest Star Games
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    Ha!  Thought I was the only one to lose figures that I know I bought and carefully stored somewhere.

    I’ve done this a couple of times.  It both a frustration but also incredibly joyful when you re-find them, like discovering $20 in a coat pocket.

    What’s even worse is that I recently re-found a model I made 3 years ago and had set in the “ready for production” bin and then somehow hid away.  I thought I had gone bonkers!  But at least now I can release it as a new product, finally!

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #191658
    Avatar photoIdle Doodler
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    Certainly not the first time it’s happened, and I’m glad it’s not involving minis I’m desperate for – primarily duplicates, though I suspect they’re accompanied by some minis from Alternative Armies and other manufactures (I’m sure there’s a multitude of female photographers in there whose manufacturer I’ve not found) from an ebay job lot. I look forward to rediscovering them, though I can’t think where I haven’t looked around my hobby desk and there’s a slight chance they got lumped into storage, and I haven’t the heart to tackle that Big Yellow box any time soon…

    Congrats on the progress – I have two figure bases to do and keep putting them off! If I leave them till I have a few more figures to do and I feel its worth getting all the bits out I’m then faced with a pile and less liable to do them… Maybe I should try putting rugby on?

    I seem incapable of making small batches of terrain mix, so it feels wasteful not to have a sizeable number of minis to do at once. But, by golly, it’s a tedious process. I’ve some mix left, and a gang of Copplestone barbarians which one of my D&D players painted up for me which I’ve prepped for basing, but I can’t face tackling them after these fellows.

    After four excellent quarter finals and some time making use of my Nebula subscription, though, I just about got the minis all based in time for an upcoming house sitting fortnight. If the painting mood takes me I may give them a drybrush and colour the rims (and touch up some more chipped paintwork the process revealed). Otherwise I’ll be quite happy gaming with them. Just couldn’t face those bare metal base edges on the travel board!

    I’ll seal the terrain mix up and see if it’s still usable when we get back.

    #192742
    Avatar photoIdle Doodler
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    Don’t usually paint mins for a specific scenario in mind, so decided to switch things up a little and rolled up a 5 Parsecs crew and rummaged around for some suitable figures from the pile accumulated from various webstores and ebay job lots.

    Of course, the minis themselves were fun to paint and didn’t take much time at all, but the simple basecoat and drybrush for the bases took weeks…

    With just the one pistol and two close-combat weapons between them, they’ll be looking to keep well clear of their opponents.

    #192752
    Avatar photoDarkest Star Games
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    Great looking crew you have there.  Post some AARs of your games, I’d love to see how they get on.

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #192848
    Avatar photoIdle Doodler
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    I’ve got a brand new notebook ‘specially for it

    Though Ivan has thrown a spanner in the works with a new expansion which, of course, must be tried out, and with expendable crews only…

    #192860
    Avatar photoTony S
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    Great looking crew you have there. Post some AARs of your games, I’d love to see how they get on.

    I’ll second that!  If your terrain looks half as good as your figures, please post some photos of your games!

    #192874
    Avatar photomadman
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    I’ve got a brand new notebook ‘specially for it Though Ivan has thrown a spanner in the works with a new expansion which, of course, must be tried out, and with expendable crews only…

    If this is the expansion which adds more “cinematic feel” to the game do some serious thinking. I have been following a discussion on board game geek in which a guy asked others opinions (I seconded that for myself). Those with definite thoughts feel it slows the flow of the play down very badly . Those who have not but have considerations (such as the original poster) seem to be talking themselves into similar conclusions.

    https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/3194907/five-parsecs-home-original-vs-dramatic-combat-rule

    #194933
    Avatar photoIdle Doodler
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    Confession: I’ve yet to actually play the campaign with the aforeposted crew.

    Resolution: I will play the campaign with the aforeposted crew before Planetfall comes out and distracts me further.

    In the meantime, I slowly slogged my way through some unarmed androids to stand in for both war and non-war bots. It seems that tackling any non-human, even though humanoid, conjures the same feeling as when I try painting horses and vehicles: it’s just not my thing.

    If this is the expansion which adds more “cinematic feel” to the game do some serious thinking. I have been following a discussion on board game geek in which a guy asked others opinions (I seconded that for myself). Those with definite thoughts feel it slows the flow of the play down very badly . Those who have not but have considerations (such as the original poster) seem to be talking themselves into similar conclusions. https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/3194907/five-parsecs-home-original-vs-dramatic-combat-rule

    I think that may have been the first expansion which came out. I do use the Dramatic Weapons option since it distinguishes a bit more between short and long range fire. I also use the Duck Back option because it feels nice to have the target respond to being fired at (though I prefer the Pulp Alley option between returning fire or hunkering down), but I use it after a character has been fired at rather than at the end of a phase. Allows for more tactical shooting.

    Lunge is one I haven’t ever implemented fully. I don’t know why I forget it and not Duck Back, but I do. I do, however, use house ruled combat which protects melee characters a bit more from ranged weapons: essentially, it’s from GW’s Lord of the Rings where the combat round happens at the end of the turn, and once a miniature is engaged in melee combat it can no longer be targeted in shooting.

    The one I’d recently got was the expansion which gives options for faction play and stealth scenarios and the like. Fun, but we’re definitely getting to the stage where I’ve got to flick between too many different books and pages even outside of gameplay. I usually type up my own reference sheets to alleviate this, but haven’t yet incorporated all of the expansion additions.

    #194942
    Avatar photoAndrew Beasley
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    …but we’re definitely getting to the stage where I’ve got to flick between too many different books and pages even outside of gameplay…

    (Start of old man rant)

    I’ve always hated rule sets that do this to me – SFB had it cracked by re-printing the pages for loose leaf binders at one point.

    Never understood this ‘make it look cute’ and hardback books – put the fluff separate to the rules and print the rules so they can be used on the table and be updated. Profit I assume…

    (end of old man rant)

    And before anyone says – PDFs – been there and spent too much time worrying the drinks where being splashed on the tablet or it was going to get knocked off the table etc. And anyway, you cannot easily scribble over them let alone see enough data / flick between pages easily – just try sticking you fingers in them to mark the page while you flick back to a table…

     

    #194943
    Avatar photoJim Webster
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    Have you seen this website

    Tiny Wars – Fantasy Skirmish The Rules

    These are his small scale fantasy skirmish rules

     

    He also has a more modern/sci fi set https://deathzap.co.uk/the-rules-deathzap/

    He’s always trying things, but his rules are always aimed at being on a couple of sides of A4

     

    Jim

     

    https://jimssfnovelsandwargamerules.wordpress.com/

    #194944
    Avatar photoAndrew Beasley
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    Have you seen this website…

    I have now – bookmarked the fantasy rules

    Many thanks

    #194945
    Avatar photoJim Webster
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    If you can get notifications from the site he’s always trying new stuff and always interesting 🙂

     

    https://jimssfnovelsandwargamerules.wordpress.com/

    #194947
    Avatar photoIdle Doodler
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    I’d say in fairness to Nordic Weasel that the rules for playing the tabletop game itself occupy a pretty small page count. My quick reference doc for use at the table (primarily because I never grok rules until I’ve written them out in my own words) is a spread of two A5 sheets in a comfortably large font. And in fact looking back through the rulebook the ‘official’ quick reference fits very comfortably onto an A4 page with an illustration and loads of white space.

    The flicking backwards and forwards are for the campaign elements which are what I view as the real strength of these 5 X from Y rulesets (if I could get myself to map the many tables onto the Legends of the Old West mechanics, I can’t see myself needing much else for sci fi gaming going forward). The campaign procedure for the core game requires relatively little flicking to multiple pages – it works pretty well as a step-by-step process. It’s just my greed and wish to fit in all the little extras that introduces the inefficiency. If only Ivan would stop promising new things…

    #195642
    Avatar photoIdle Doodler
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    Did some quick nefarious zealots for 5 Parsecs’ various religious and/or secretive organisations, little more than a drybrush then coating of speed / contrast paints. Didn’t want to find myself procrastinating over them as long as I did with the bots.

    #195647
    Avatar photoJim Webster
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    They look good 🙂

     

    https://jimssfnovelsandwargamerules.wordpress.com/

    #197530
    Avatar photoIdle Doodler
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    Played with the crew above, left the journal unused while just using some printed crew and ship sheets to note progress, and ran out of steam after four missions.

    So rolled up a new crew, and this time am actually putting in a bit more effort to record things down in an old exercise book we unearthed from storage. Ended up with a pair of Bounty Hunters and their Bot picking up a Hopeful Rookie from a planet under threat of invasion.

    Their first job was an Eliminate mission with an extra Priority Target, which suited the bounty hunting theme nicely.

    Pictures are below; if you’re interested in a written account of the hunt, you can find it here.

     

     

    #197578
    Avatar photoDarkest Star Games
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    Very nice, and I like the write up.  Sounds like they’re heading out into The Black just in time too!

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #197659
    Avatar photoIdle Doodler
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    Funnily enough I’ve managed to go six or seven campaigns without every rolling up an invasion. Found myself scrabbling for Invasion Battle rules

    #197671
    Avatar photoDarkest Star Games
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    Did you find any?  I have several, and all do various things.  Strike Legion: Planetary Operations is a good one if you don’t’ want to go full Traveller (which has probably the most detailed planetary invasion rules ever).

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #197724
    Avatar photoIdle Doodler
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    Oh, yes – 5 Parsecs does have rules for invasions. I’d just never needed them before, and had completely overlooked them when creating my custom rulebook

    #197812
    Avatar photoIvan Sorensen
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    Figures look great and Im glad you are having fun with the game 🙂

    #197984
    Avatar photoOldBen1
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    I always love your posts and all the photos.  Your games look great!

    #197987
    Avatar photoDark Horse Hobbies
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    Very. . . Very. . . Nice Collection!

    Note to Self: Must return to miniatures painting for fun.

    Shop our webstore at www.darkhorsehobbies.com (US Sales Only)

    #198026
    Avatar photoIdle Doodler
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    Cheers, folks!

    Ran through Campaign Turn 2 – relatively quick what with it just being a fight to escape the invaded planet. A write up can be found here, but here are the pictures:

     

    #198027
    Avatar photoIdle Doodler
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    Also painted up some Unity Enforcers:

    #198032
    Avatar photoDarkest Star Games
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    Short and sweet AAR, good stuff!  I hope the bot isn’t scrambled, it’d be real bad for it to go psycho at the wrong time.

    Your new troops look darn good in red, very striking.  Contrast paints work pretty good at this scale, i need to try out a few more colors as i have had mixed luck (probably due to technique more than the paints themselves).

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #198034
    Avatar photoIvan Sorensen
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    Yeah they look absolutely striking

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