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  • #87401
    Abwehrschlacht
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    I have been thinking about doing Rommel in 6mm, I have tried out a couple of stands of vehicles, and there is a few musings on my blog about it all:

    http://stormofsteelwargaming.blogspot.co.uk/2018/03/rommel-in-6mm.html

    Does anyone have any further suggestions?

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    #87456
    Darkest Star Games
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    The minis look really good.

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #87467

    My suggestion is for the labels: don’t print them on white paper. It’s jarring. Use a nice cream or light green, or light feldrau. Also, you might want to print the unit symbol as yellow on a feldgrau or grey background.

    In the micro scales, that sort of very bright white distracts the eye from your excellent miniatures and, from a distance, makes the battlefield look like it is being fought over by “post it” strips.

    We get slapped around, but we have a good time!

    #87469
    Abwehrschlacht
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    That’s a fair point Thaddeus. It may be difficult to see in my photos, but the labels actually have a very light grey background, but I could darken it up to sort out the brightness.

    Cheers chaps.

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    #87475
    Darkest Star Games
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    Don’t know what the unit size the basing represents, but you could also get a mega-bang for your buck using 1:600 scale minis.  Probably won’t be able to tell a PnzIVF2 from a G or H (unless, you know, the skirts) but that may not matter in the context of the game.  Can probably even get some infantry on the bases with the AFVs

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    #87480
    Abwehrschlacht
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    Thanks, I had thought about 3mm, but I fear that it would be too much like a board game token and I wouldn’t be able to tell the tanks apart. I think 6mm is the smallest ill go 🙂

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    #87521
    MartinR
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    I did my Rommel playtests in 6mm (partly because that is the scale of my desert stuff!).

    All my bases (2mm, 6mm, 15mm and 20m) have a strip of magnetic tape on the rear edge, painted to blend in to the base. I can then use any markers I like (including strength points, formation affiliation markers ec) out of steel paper which stick to the mag strip.

    It is less obtrusive and more flexible than unit labels. After all, rules come and go but figures last forever.

    I’m too cheap to multibase 6mm stuff, I tried it for a while with my Corps level rules, but it just seemed such a waste and I broke them up again. Too much of a Yorkshireman. I do multibase 2mm though.

     

     

     

    "Mistakes in the initial deployment cannot be rectified" - Helmuth von Moltke

    #87528

    I play almost exclusively in 3mm and it really isn’t that different from 6mm. It does allow you to build a game with a smaller footprint, so if you are an apartment dweller like myself, that might be a consideration.

    As for labels, experiment a bit and see what works for you. You can paint a wash over thick paper and still print on it, so don’t feel you are constrained by your printer’s color schemes.

    Here are some Brits in 3mm, which I did years ago but which would be perfect for Rommel:

    The labels are printed and placed on painted cardboard strips, which are glued to the back of the stand with a dab of white glue, reinforced by a small bit of paper on the bottom. This way, I can pop them off and replace them as needed.

    We get slapped around, but we have a good time!

    #87532

    Here are some even smaller one casting stands with lables painted and printed as I described above. This was a test to see what label color worked best:

    Of course, you could always go a more visually “popped” route, which I have done for this panzer division here. This makes the labels more obtrusive, but gets rid of the jarring whiteness:

    Here’s a series of basing solutions, showing some Soviets as well:

    I think you’ll agree, however: these are hardly gaming counters. 3mm isn’t everyone’s bag, but it DOES NOT produce “gaming counters” if done correctly.

    It is also something of a “freebie” scale: at four dollars for 15 castings, you can buy yourself a nice little travel or coffee table set up for the same cost as one Games Wankshop figure. Two armies and simple terrain can fit in two cigar boxes. Add a gaming mat and you now have a set up you can carry in a daypack pretty much anywhere.

    THAT’S the benefit of 3mm: it allows every gamer to build their own mini set-up and/or explore eras or fronts you’d never do. Want to build a Hungarian Armored Division for 1945?  Check out those GHQ prices! Oddzial Osmy has your back for under thirty dollars.

     

    We get slapped around, but we have a good time!

    #87565
    Abwehrschlacht
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    Martin as a Yorkshire man myself, I understand your financial struggles only too well…

    Thad, that’s certainly convincing, I was worried about the level of detail on 3mm, but they work just fine. I may buy a few tester packs and see how I feel about them in the flesh, but that’s some great work.

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    #87584

    Hey, they’re so cheap that you might as well. Like I said, it’s a “freebie” scale. You can do it AND your regular stuff, even if you are a Yorkshireman.

    A few years ago, I wanted to do a set up for a war between Venezuela and Colombia. I got two armies for under 30 dollars and a few bits and pieces I already had on hand. Last year, I did two imagination modern armies just for shits and giggles.

    The big problem with 3mm is that it is almost too easy to acquire tons (well, grams) of metal you will never get around to painting.

    If you do it for Rommel, let me suggest two castings per base and a greatly reduced table footprint for a nice travel game.

    We get slapped around, but we have a good time!

    #87907
    cmnash
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    I just stumbled across this blog post about Rommel bases:  https://rollaone.com/2017/09/10/getting-ready-for-sam-mustafas-rommel-part-2/

    and thought it might help

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    #87915
    Abwehrschlacht
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    Blimey, that is a good idea, but very work heavy!

     

    I other news, I have put £20 of my hard earned pennies down and ordered a bunch of OO’s tanks to test out 3rd Panzer Divsion!

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    #87945
    cmnash
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    Blimey, that is a good idea, but very work heavy!

    That is what I thought …  I have enough trouble painting & basing without that level of dedication for the labels!

    I other news, I have put £20 of my hard earned pennies down and ordered a bunch of OO’s tanks to test out 3rd Panzer Divsion!

    I don’t think you’ll be disappointed – they are lovely miniatures and the detail is amazing.  Be warned though, if you’ve not had any dealings with them before, the alloy is very hard – it doesn’t really matter though, I’ve not seen mould lines on any I’ve had and any flash seems to be from mould vents and easily removed with side clippers

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    #87974

    Also, you need to ramp up everything you have learned about painting 6mm to eleven when doing 3mm. The two most important rules:

    1) Use much brighter colors than you normally would;

    2) Base contra your paint job.

    We get slapped around, but we have a good time!

    #87976
    Abwehrschlacht
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    They figures have been dispatched, so they should be with me by the end of the week, having seen them onlone I am looing forward to seeing how they look in the flesh.

    Thad, as for painting, what do you mean by Base Contra? It’s going to be interesting to see how the models handle paint and I will obviously be testing a couple of pieces before doing an entire batch.

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    #87980

    I mean use a base color that clashes with your miniature’s paint job. So, for panzer grey, you should base yellow or bright green.

    We get slapped around, but we have a good time!

    #87998
    Abwehrschlacht
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    Ah OK, now I get you. So, something really dark for DunkleGelb?

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