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  • #79929
    Darryl Smith
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    I am looking for a set of World War One rules that meet the following criteria:

    Players command larger formations, like brigades and/or divisions.
    Simple enough to run at conventions.
    Rules are currently available and not out of print.
    Captures both trench and open maneuver warfare.
    Has army organizations/lists for all theaters.
    15mm figures are mounted to to three per stand.
    Is not hex or square based.
    Weapons ranges have some basis in historical ranges.

    We are looking towards Great War Spearhead II, do they cover the above?

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    #79933
    MartinR
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    Yes, GWSH II meets all your criteria, except I only put two 15mm figure on each stand, as I’m cheap:)

    Manouvre units are regiments/brigades and formations are divisions. Rifles and LMGs shoot as far a you’d expect with a ground scale of 1″ to 80 yard. I’ve used them extensively for both trench and open warfare, in fact the trench warfare rules are some of the best I’ve ever come across and I shamelessly borrowed the pre-game bombardment mechnism for my own rules.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    #79943
    kyoteblue
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    I think that GWSH 2 are better suited for 6mm.

    #79944
    Darryl Smith
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    Yes, GWSH II meets all your criteria, except I only put two 15mm figure on each stand, as I’m cheap:)

    Maneuver units are regiments/brigades and formations are divisions. Rifles and LMGs shoot as far a you’d expect with a ground scale of 1″ to 80 yard. I’ve used them extensively for both trench and open warfare, in fact the trench warfare rules are some of the best I’ve ever come across and I shamelessly borrowed the pre-game bombardment mechanism for my own rules.

    Sounds like these might be the thing then. I have no issues going with two figures per stand, but I believe GWSH has a base front of 30mm? IOf so, three figures should work nicely!

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    #79945
    Darryl Smith
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    I think that GWSH 2 are better suited for 6mm.

    Based on….? More figures on a stand in 6mm and hence it would look more appealing?

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    #79947
    kyoteblue
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    Just all the AAR’s of GWSH2 I have seen use 6mm. Shrug.

    #79951
    Ivan Sorensen
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    I’d definitely say Spearhead will do you at that scale.
    I think something like Over the Top gives a more fun game, but that tends to fit more comfortably at a smaller level of game.

    It really won’t matter how you base your figures. I’d agree with Kyote that 15mm figures look “off” for “each stand is a company” sized games, but honestly, I’ve played that way and the scale-police didn’t arrest me 🙂

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    #79956
    MartinR
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    You can use figures based for GWSH interchangeably with Square Bashing, as they are both 1 base = 1 company games. Yes, the bases are 30×30, but as with all element based games, the number of figures on each base is irrelevant. You could put 200 2mm figs on each base for a true 1:1 scale game, but it wouldn’t make any difference to the game play. You can comfortably fit three and even four 15mm figures on a 30×30.

    I’ve run convention games with both SB and GWSH, SB is a bit more abstract and some players hate it (and it uses a grid).

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    #80010
    Darryl Smith
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    I’d definitely say Spearhead will do you at that scale.
    I think something like Over the Top gives a more fun game, but that tends to fit more comfortably at a smaller level of game.

    It really won’t matter how you base your figures. I’d agree with Kyote that 15mm figures look “off” for “each stand is a company” sized games, but honestly, I’ve played that way and the scale-police didn’t arrest me 🙂

    OTT would be a more fun game? Can you elaborate on how? I think having a stand as a platoon is too small an operational level for what the group I game with has been talking about, and years ago I played OTT and just wasn’t happy with the flow (having played Command Decision and Combined Arms numerous times and enjoying those immensely OTT just left us blah).

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