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    Jonathan Gingerich
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    I’ve been in a bit of pain watching the discussion of 1805-7 Russian Hussars over on TMP. Someone got it into their head that hussar officers wore a big bush on their shakos. (That should be big busch, not that’s there’s anything wrong with big bushes.) In fact, hussar officers used what every other Russian officer and general was using – a tall, thick, cylindrical plume of falling feathers. It got shortened in 1809.
    The discussion missed a more interesting fact about the headgear. I believe the hussar officer shako was unique is having a metallic lace about the top of shako. (Although the lancer officers had such around the middle of the czapka.)
    In fairness, it is a bit difficult to follow Viskovatov’s info on plumes, as it’s diffuse and relies on the illustrations. Since this is covered on my Russian uniform page, I was saddened that no one thought to link it.
    So I’ve tightened up the notes about plumes, fixed some items in the garrison field vs. internal establishment ;), and changed a narrative about Gabayev and black flag poles :-o, and released a revision.
    If you are the kind of person that prefers to cut to the chase, and not pore over intriguing images of obscure provenance diligently dug from the four corners of the ‘net to reach dubious conclusions, you can always check my webpage first:
    http://zaotlichiye.net63.net/allfacings.html
    And if not, I could still use the hits, to maintain some visibility in Google.-)
    JG

    #134733
    WhirlwindWhirlwind
    Participant

    It is a really great resource Jonathan.

    Since you have brought the Napoleonic Russians up, this has reminded me to ask you what the Internal Guard was, exactly?

    https://hereticalgaming.blogspot.co.uk/

    #134743
    Jonathan Gingerich
    Participant

    I focus mostly on the uniforms, but my impression is that the field garrisons were intended to mobilize and provide second rank support, guarding supply lines and depots, conducting rear area sieges, etc. I do know that Sveaborg Garrison which became the new Lithuania Infantry was formed from garrison units conducting a siege, but I’m not aware of any other campaign presence. I assume internal garrison stayed local and dealt with banditry, unrest, as well as actually garrisoning fortresses. When the reorganization happened for the invasion, much of the garrisons went into line units or the newly designated internal guard, but there were a few that remained, probably for the frontier fortresses. I have a vague recall that there was also some kind of provincial police force that merged into the internal guard at that time.
    JG

    #134897
    WhirlwindWhirlwind
    Participant

    Many thanks Jonathan, interesting info on a little-known element of the Russian military.

    https://hereticalgaming.blogspot.co.uk/

    #141593
    jannerjanner
    Participant

    Hi JG,

    For some reason, Facebook won’t let me post the link to your website (someone was asking about information on Russians).

    Regards,

    http://jannersjaunt.blogspot.dk

    #141608
    Jonathan Gingerich
    Participant

    Hm, the only thing I can think of is that I don’t believe it’s a straight URL. I think Web000 redirects it. I used it to keep the original URL.

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