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19/09/2019 at 00:55 #122663
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ParticipantI find humor in the fact that Carojon and I were both working on Romans with black shields at the same time (see Carojon’s excellent work here: https://www.thewargameswebsite.com/forums/topic/roman-legionary-cohort/ ). Now, my Black Legion would predate his by 300 years but in my mind they’re the same legion… ancient imaginations, anyone? I’m sure there’s an interesting unit history to be written here.
Two stands of Victrix figures. I’m going to use these as hastati. Another two stands will be principes and then one stand will be spear armed for triarii. Based for Impetus. All will have variations of black shields and plumes.
Self taught, persistently behind the times, never up to date. AKA ~ jeff
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ParticipantI think it’s quite cool that you’re doing the timeline link, and these are some pretty serious looking dudes that also look quite good.
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19/09/2019 at 19:40 #122770Hafen von Schlockenberg
ParticipantI find humor in the fact that I was half-hoping for a game of the Bogart film.
This Black Legion looks plenty mean too, though — I’m tempted!
19/09/2019 at 20:16 #122772Cerdic
ParticipantCool. Now someone has to do the Black Legion in Marian/Caesarian mail…
19/10/2019 at 17:21 #124783Autodidact-O-Saurus
ParticipantExactly one month after the hastati the principes of the Black Legion arrive.
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More verbosity: http://petiteguerre.blogspot.com/21/10/2019 at 14:49 #124884Darkest Star Games
ParticipantLook great!
Dumb question: is principe pronounced like Prince, or like Break with a P?
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21/10/2019 at 17:03 #124901A Lot of Gaul
ParticipantOne princeps, two or more principes. In Classical Latin, pronounced: prin.keps, prin.kepās. In modern English, pronounced: prinˌseps, prin(t)səˌpēz.
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22/10/2019 at 14:52 #124934Darkest Star Games
ParticipantMany thanks!
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22/10/2019 at 16:51 #124941vtsaogames
ParticipantI painted some crude yellow devices on the red shields of my old 1/72 Hat Romans. I gather it would be more correct to just paint their shields solid red?
I have another DBA force in solid blue shields if we ever do a Roman civil war.
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24/10/2019 at 03:46 #125020Alexander Hay-Whitton
ParticipantWhen there’s solid evidence about shield faces, it usually indicates designs. I really don’t find it easy to believe the plain shields idea (I admit I don’t want to believe it either).
24/10/2019 at 09:23 #125030Autodidact-O-Saurus
ParticipantI tend to go with plainer shields mostly because I hate painting shield designs and I’ve never been very happy with my ability to apply decals. For this particular unit of five stands I wanted the shield designs to get more complex as I go from hastati to principes to triarii but still reflect a consistent color palette. I don’t suppose we will ever really know how consistently and in what colors legionary shields were decorated.
As for red shields… why not? I’ve read that red was a popular color in Sparta and among Hellenistic mercenaries to denote professionalism. And, I believe Roman commanders typically wore a red cloak as a symbol of authority. Did this extend to Roman shields? Seems logical but I guess the modern conceit of red Roman shields probably comes from early Hollywood productions.
Self taught, persistently behind the times, never up to date. AKA ~ jeff
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ParticipantAnd finally, the triarii in red(ish) tunics and fancier shields to denote their greater experience:
A few close ups:
It’s so unusual for me to complete anything before flitting off to another project. I’m chuffed! The entire of the Black Legion (This is the Victrix boxed set ‘Legions of the Republic II’ — minus one lone figure):
Now it’s off to paint Carthaginians….
Self taught, persistently behind the times, never up to date. AKA ~ jeff
More verbosity: http://petiteguerre.blogspot.com/04/11/2019 at 08:37 #125831Iain Fuller
ParticipantLovely job and great to see the completely finished unit with their mates.
04/11/2019 at 15:27 #125868Steve Burt
ParticipantWe know that different legions had different shield devices, but we don’t know what they were.
Some battle accounts (I think Polybius’ one of Trebbia) mention the Carthaginians realising the other consul had turned up because they saw new shield designs.
I wonder if that was ever used for deceptive purposes?
22/02/2020 at 15:55 #132064Autodidact-O-Saurus
ParticipantFINALLY!! Some Carthaginians to oppose the Black Legion. These are Punic veterans in appropriated Roman armor. I suspect the vets would not have been segregated from the rest of the Punic soldiers in more traditional Greek style armor. But I wanted to be able to field earlier Punic forces which probably would not have had soldiers in Roman lorica hamata. So… separate units it is. This is my first experience using the popular scenic ‘tufts’. These are from The Army Painter. I’ve used them sparingly but I like the variation they give my vegetation.
Anyhoo… 21 Carthaginian vets done. Twenty-one linothorax wearers to go.
Self taught, persistently behind the times, never up to date. AKA ~ jeff
More verbosity: http://petiteguerre.blogspot.com/03/06/2020 at 19:33 #137469Autodidact-O-Saurus
ParticipantFinished up the Punic troops this morning. The last three stands are, of course, Victrix.
And then some shots of the full Carthaginian army. I’ve got about an equal number (if not more) of Gauls. I think I need to get cracking on some Italian Allies for the legions of Roma. Or maybe play a game… there’s a thought.
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More verbosity: http://petiteguerre.blogspot.com/21/06/2020 at 06:51 #138474Volunteer
ParticipantThese armies are awesome Jeff! The painting is very good. The Punic wars was always my favorite ancients period. Now you need Gauls and Iberians, if you haven’t already done them.
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Wernher von Braun21/06/2020 at 15:57 #138484Autodidact-O-Saurus
ParticipantThanks, Vol.
These have taken a bit of a back seat lately. I got sidetracked by the Black Sails ships and then my long neglected F&I War stuff. I’ve got LOTS of Gauls, very few Iberians, though. Next up are going to be some Italian allies which should bring the Romans up to parity. When the COVID stay-at-home orders hit I figured I’d finally get a chance to run ‘To the Strongest’ since, being grid based, it should be fairly easy to do with remote cameras. Still haven’t attempted it!
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