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28/09/2023 at 13:19 #191038
Norm S
ParticipantI put on a small game yesterday to see how the new Valour & Victory rules (free) would work on a small table with just 1 brigade per side.
There is a bit of a write-up on the blog with some observations and detailing of the sequence of play and mechanics.
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https://battlefieldswarriors.blogspot.com/2023/09/valour-fortitude-v2-on-table.html
28/09/2023 at 15:08 #191053Darkest Star Games
ParticipantThanks for this, Norm. This sounds like a set of rules that would be good for a neophyte who doesn’t know the ins-and-outs of Napoleonic tactics and maneuvers. Would that be a correct assumption?
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28/09/2023 at 15:24 #191055Norm S
ParticipantThat is a fair assumption. The main rules are a game engine and army specific rules are in the specific army list that one downloads.
The rules come with French / British lists. For my game, I went to the Perry site and downloaded the Prussian army list.
These will weight the forces, the brigade rules bind units of the brigade in close proximity or each other and then the benefits of line / assault column / square will become apparent through play as the play aid sheet with mods adds and deducts the pro’s and con’s of each formation type in any given situation.
So one learns that assault column is good for moving around, but is a juicy target for artillery and is poor when they want to fire and just okay when they assault. Line is slower to move, has better fire power and has some benefits in melee etc. The player will pretty quickly start to learn to get into the formation that benefits them most at the right time and so by implication, tactical considerations just happen.
So we know for example that generally cavalry should not do a headlong charge into a well formed and ordered infantry square, ignore that and the rules will automatically ‘instruct’ you that you have just wasted actions / time / opportunity on a fruitless action.
Downloading the rules from the Perry’s and just putting some blank cardboard bases down for units and running through some practice turns would be a cost effective way of testing the waters.
28/09/2023 at 15:44 #191057Darkest Star Games
ParticipantDownloading the rules from the Perry’s and just putting some blank cardboard bases down for units and running through some practice turns would be a cost effective way of testing the waters.
Indeed it would! My compadres have had a very long running discussion on some Imaginations games but never settled on a set. I think between this game and ESR we may have found what we are looking for. I’ll be passing it along, and we will see if it sticks!
Thanks!
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28/09/2023 at 21:20 #191072OotKust
ParticipantThis sounds like a set of rules that would be good for a neophyte who doesn’t know the ins-and-outs of Napoleonic
Though I don’t believe I’ve got v2 anyway, a reading of v1 was enough to permit me to give them a ✅ as an entry level set for Dummy’s oops neophytes.
As Norm says, the ‘guidance’ by rules is the training needed to not take contrarian actions because the rules don’t prohibit them.
Those whose thrill is competitiveness, won’t like them, period.
cheers dave29/09/2023 at 20:12 #191096Darkest Star Games
ParticipantThose whose thrill is competitiveness, won’t like them, period.
Suites me perfectly. We are more about the story of the game/campaign and having a good time, and not getting top honors in tournaments. Finally my buddy can start to paint his hordes of lead troops…
"I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."
29/09/2023 at 21:14 #191098OotKust
ParticipantSuites me perfectly. We are more about the story of the game/campaign and having a good time, and not getting top honors in tournaments. Finally my buddy can start to paint his hordes of lead troops…
Sweeeet… agree- just pointing out that the greatest negative comments will come from that quarter- we also play the period, not the rules___
01/10/2023 at 21:53 #191134Tony S
ParticipantI’ll echo Darkest Star and Dave – for us, it’s a social occasion, to joke and laugh with friends I’ve had for years. I liked V&F V1 when we played it, although we were somewhat taken aback at a single roll causing an entire brigade to vanish. Glad, and not too surprised to see that’s been toned down a trifle.
Thanks for taking the time for your post on your blog Norm.
06/10/2023 at 17:43 #191271vtsaogames
ParticipantAh yes, Valour & Fortitude…
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