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  • #144799
    Sane Max
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    Hiya. I have just ordered a box of these, as the basis of my Halfling Democratic Republic Dragon Rampant Army. I hesitated to do it, but finally decided to as I wanted some of their Dark age Irish in any case, and the Dogs will make good mounts for Halfling Light Cavalry, and I already have a Tree-34 (Evil Treeman).

    the reason I hesitated was… they don’t look very halflingy do they? More like midgets than the classic Big Head, Big Hands, Big Feet Apple-cheeked types I am used to.

    Is it just me? Has my ‘Sense of Hobbit’ been damaged by exposure to over-cartoony Halflings from other manufacturers? Just asking. at Β£25 for 40 halflings I am hardly taking a huge risk here, but I do keep feeling the same way.

    #144800
    Mike
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    they don’t look very halflingy do they?

    I am lazy, help me out… πŸ˜‰

    #144807
    Whirlwind
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    #144808
    Mike
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    Ta.

    Interesting, they are a far cry from the old GW implausible halflings from back in the day.
    They certainly look anatomically feasible, which must be a good thing?

    Having said that I am not sure how I feel about them.

    #144809
    Mike
    Keymaster

    I suspect that had these style of models been dressed in civilian clothes and doing hobbity foody type stuff, rather than in military gear, they would seem more like the pot bellied hobbits of old?

    #144810
    Rhoderic
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    This subject touches upon one of my favourite things about the hobby: the way different ranges of miniatures portray the same thing in interestingly different ways, especially in the fantastical genres where aesthetic and “art direction” are major factors.

    I think the Wargames Atlantic halflings look eminently “halflingy”, but no, they look nothing like the old GW take on halflings, which also look eminently halflingy but in a very different way, to suit a different aesthetic. I have Wargames Atlantic halflings, Copplestone Castings halflings, Bridge Miniatures halflings (formerly made by Black Hat) and Westfalia Miniatures halflings, and I intend to rarely (if ever) mix them because in my mind they’re meant for different fantasy aesthetics. Once I get some Reaper halflings I might possibly mix them with the Copplestone ones if I deem them to be compatible enough, but that’s not a given, so they might end up representing a fifth aesthetic.

    Similarly I have, or intend to get, many different aesthetics of orcs, goblins, elves, dwarfs and other fantasy races, even humans. I’d like to match these up into sets representing different “art direction” portrayals of a typical Tolkienesque fantasy setting. I should point out I only get small skirmish warbands of each range.

    I’d say you might want to mull over which kind of general aesthetic you’re aiming for with your fantasy setting, and choose your halflings accordingly. What other figures do you mean to mix them with? Cartoonish? Non-cartoonish? In-between? The Wargames Atlantic halflings strike me as being quite far toward the non-cartoonish end of the spectrum. Perhaps the only ones that look even less cartoonish are the Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game hobbits.

     

    #144811
    Sane Max
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    They are for Dragon Rampant, a fun game, and furthermore as part of a silly Warband – the Army of the Shire if Frodo and Sam had failed to overthrow Saruman and it became the North Korea of Middle Earth – Hobbits, Ruffians, Dog-riding Hobbit Cavalry, an evil Treeman (Tree 34 Tank) and some Giant Spider Refugees from Mirkwood, topped off with a wicked old wizard and a sniveling evil human Side Kick tentatively called Dominic.

    They won’t be doing duty in any other armies, so will be pretty much stand-alone, so they don’t have to be ‘compatible’ – I don’t own another hobbit πŸ™‚

    #144812
    Rhoderic
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    So what type of aesthetic do the non-halfling figures in the army represent?

    This is just me, but if I was going for the old GW-style pot-bellies with big feet and hands sticking out of them as my halflings, I’d also want the other figures in the army to be similarly cartoonish. Cartoonish ruffians, cartoonish treeman, and so on. If, on the other hand, I had already settled on non-cartoonish figures for the non-halflings (such as the Wargames Atlantic Dark Age Irish for the ruffians), I would also want halflings in a similarly realistic(ish) sculpting style.

    Again, that’s just my preference. To answer your original question, I think the Wargames Atlantic halflings do look the part, but in the context of a relatively realistic aesthetic.

    #144816
    Sane Max
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    on the other hand, I had already settled on non-cartoonish figures for the non-halflings (such as the Wargames Atlantic Dark Age Irish for the ruffians)

    yes, correct.

    The rest of the force will indeed be fairly realistic looking and not at all ‘Peter Jackson’ in their aesthetic. I think it’s more that I Only KNOW cartoony Halflings, so was expecting them. Like I say, these will be the only ones I own, and the only ones I have painted since an adventurer for D&D back in the 80’s.

    #144824
    John Treadaway
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    I think the Wargames Atlantic ones are excellent, I have to say: the overly comedic old GW style (for Halflings, Dwarves et all) is not something I ever cared for. Applicable if I wanted to do a Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs game,sure, but not for much else…

    John Treadaway

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    #145209
    Sane Max
    Participant

    well, I received mine and am mostly happy. I think they could have given a few more hand weapons rather than 1 per sprue, but nice otherwise!

    #145502
    John Treadaway
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    Assuming all goes according to plan (fingers crossed) we are planning a sprue on the cover of the January issue of Miniature Wargames with some news inside on their latest releases!

    John Treadaway

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    #145669
    Sane Max
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    I would be interested, especially if you told us about the company. what’s their plan? I assume they intend to release their own systems at some point? How do they find their sculptors? And would they like to buy some plastic Wardogs? πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

    The sprues are very … interesting. The Halfling sprue is far too limited in what you can do with it, it’s Pikes and Halberds really, no other hand weapons – and one sling per sprue on the Irish box is just questionable. 85 shields to 30 warriors, but only 5 slings….. I bought mine for DR, so one box of each is just fine, except I dont get enough slings in a box to do a unit of 6 scouts.

    Imagine if you bought 6 boxes to do an Irish army. what are you going to do with 60 wardogs and 330 spare shields?

    I am not having a go, just interested if this was the result of eager young newbies taking their first steps in a new market, which is my assumption. A story please John, not just a puff-piece!

    As figures they are very nice. The Irish in particular paint very nicely, and their faces in particular are excellent.

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