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  • #29202
    Avatar photoJonathan Gingerich
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    Yes.

     

    Hope that is settled.

    #29208
    Avatar photogrizzlymc
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    A short arsed military dictator who estimated the life of a loyal follower at 1/500,000 th of his “glory”.

     

    Someone should have given him a good slapping.

    #29211
    Avatar photoSparker
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    They did – Wellington and Blucher!

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    #29212
    Avatar photogrizzlymc
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    I didn’t realise that Wellington played a bit part, did he command the Hannovarians then?

    #29213
    Avatar photoNot Connard Sage
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    Oh give over, you’ll wake Kiley and Gazzola from their undead slumber.

     

    We can do without the Bonapartist fanbois here, thangyewvermuch

    Obvious contrarian and passive aggressive old prat, who is taken far too seriously by some and not seriously enough by others.

    #29214
    Avatar photoPatrice
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    Was Napoleon a Military Dictator? Yes. Hope that is settled.

    Yes. Why do you ask, since you know the answer? He organized (and won) a military coup against the French 1st Republic. He turned France into military barracks. He re-established slavery. etc.

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    #29215
    Avatar photoNot Connard Sage
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    What’s the French for ‘rhetorical question’…?

    Obvious contrarian and passive aggressive old prat, who is taken far too seriously by some and not seriously enough by others.

    #29216
    Avatar photoMr. Average
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    Question oratoire.

    And I agree that he basically was, although he cloaked it in neo-feudal trappings.

    #29218
    Avatar photoLagartija Mike
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    How could he be anything other than an imperial purple thug anymore than Pitt could be anything but the industrious mandible of the British state.

    #29370
    Avatar photoBandit
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    So the purpose of this thread it, “let’s say negative things about Napoleon”?

    Cheers,

    The Bandit

    #29372
    Avatar photoPiyan Glupak
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    Sounds reasonable to me!

    #29399
    Avatar photogrizzlymc
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    Absolutely!

    #29422
    Avatar photoNot Connard Sage
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    And George III was barking. Often literally…

    Obvious contrarian and passive aggressive old prat, who is taken far too seriously by some and not seriously enough by others.

    #29423
    Avatar photoLagartija Mike
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    For better or worse I’m immune to the Napoleonic charisma and have a largish problem understanding extremes of emotion he creates, two hundred years downstream. We’ve had a greater and more efficient butchers, more supremely venal politicos and imperial sociopaths of distinction. Why him?

    #29424
    Avatar photoNot Connard Sage
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    Hero worship.

    My heroes tend to be scientists and engineers like Brunel and Faraday, not fat little dictators who killed millions. Funny old world.

    Obvious contrarian and passive aggressive old prat, who is taken far too seriously by some and not seriously enough by others.

    #29425
    Avatar photoBandit
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    Thankfully scientists have only ever done good, none have ever done things to kill large sums of people… wait, what was that anniversary that just passed?

    Cheers,

    The Bandit

    #29435
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    As you ask it was the anniversary of a completely avoidable event.  On the 9th of December 1941, Japan could have withdrawn from its Chinese conquests, pulled its navy back from the central Pacific and avoided getting into an industrial war to the finish.  All political decisions.

     

    Are you now going to blame Marco Polo for the effects of gunpowder.

     

    As for the Corsican dwarf.  He was the ultimate Eurocrat.  Second rate amateur, spent 20 odd years throwing his weight around to a negative net effect, then retired like a prince at the expense of those whom he had abused.  Blucher had the right solution.

    #29436
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    To answer your question Mike, as Keegan put it is these people inspire further generations of wannabees who do the same sort of things with increasing levels of sophistication in both marketing and execution to the same lack of positive effect.

    #29438
    Avatar photoBandit
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    So after the “call Napoleon names” thread that we have going on here ends, can we move onto something useful?

    I thought the purpose of this place [TWW] was to get away from this kinda crap from TMP… and yet here people are doing the same thing. The only difference is that only one side of the ridiculous is being demonstrated.

    Cheers,

    The Bandit

    #29451
    Avatar photoNot Connard Sage
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    As for the Corsican dwarf. He was the ultimate Eurocrat. Second rate amateur, spent 20 odd years throwing his weight around to a negative net effect, then retired like a prince at the expense of those whom he had abused. Blucher had the right solution.

    Hang on, that reminds me of someone…

     

    Obvious contrarian and passive aggressive old prat, who is taken far too seriously by some and not seriously enough by others.

    #29459
    Avatar photoPatrice
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    So after the “call Napoleon names” thread that we have going on here ends, can we move onto something useful?

    I must say: The Bandit is right.

    And I’m French.

    And I don’t like what Napoleon did.

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    #29472
    Avatar photoLagartija Mike
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    I’m not here to dung Napoleon’s memory, I’m equally unenthusiastic about Wellington, Blucher and the rest. At best they seem merely opportunistic, and it’s hard to imagine a more callous spider than Pitt; for all the muscular bravery, murderous elan and pomp of the age it’s a little lean on the deeply heroic.

    #29699
    Avatar photoLagartija Mike
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    In a grave error in judgement I glanced over at the TMP version of this thread, where candidates for ice bath therapy like OSchmidt and regal corpse sniffers like Gazolla duke it out over a hellscape like a Gaudi cathedral of their own softserve stool. Really, they should issue their own line of slavering senior plushies, like Sanrio did with ringworm and streptococcus!

    #29700
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    That’s why I don’t post on PMT and only drop by once a month to read the interesting bits.

     

    Gazzola is a little turd, he breaks every rule in the book and then clicks the report button on every post in the hope tht one sticks.  You just know that people like that don’t go out much, because if they behaved like that in the real world someone would send them home in an ambulance.

     

    My ideaof hell is that I find myself in UK or US with a spare weekend near a big convention, I go there to the participation game and there is my PMT hit list arguing about the Title Page of the rulebook.

    #29708
    Avatar photoLagartija Mike
    Spectator

    Gazolla may indeed be the Corsican’s most absorbent sanitary napkin, but can he claim to have had etherized chingada with Brezhnev’s dentist like my boy Oschmidt?

    #29710
    Avatar photoMike
    Keymaster

    TWW is not the place to insult anyone, living or dead.
    My signature is a big clue, as are the forum ‘rules’

    Please be cool.

    😉

    #29714
    Avatar photoLagartija Mike
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    Not even the EDM euroterroristas who are invading my city with their glowstix, neon lime lycra codpieces and airburst b.o.? I thought Airstrip One was designed as a buffer against this kind of tsk-boom tsk-boom jihadis.

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