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ParticipantThinking about it some more, an effective way of dealing with the size issue was the idea of “scales” from the old West End Games D6 Star Wars game; everything in the game was assigned a scale, indicating its rough size: off the top of my head, they were divided into character, speeder, walker, starfighter, capital, and death star. So you might have a bounty hunter firing his 4d strength blaster at an X-wing with an armour value (or whatever it was called) also of 4d. However, because the bounty hunter (and his weapon) are in a smaller size category than the X-wing, he would gain a bonus to hit (based on how many steps removed the two scales are from one another), while the X-wing would get a similar bonus to resist damage.
In the opposite situation, with the W-wing shooting at the bounty hunter, the X-wing would take a penalty to hit (again, based on how many steps removed from each other the two scales are) and, if hit, the bounty hunter would take a penalty to resist damage.
I haven’t played the game in years, but I am sure that the above is roughly how it was handled. I’m sure D&D 3rd ed. handled different sized creatures hitting each other in a similar way (but I don’t think that there were damage modifiers, but again I could be wrong because I haven’t played in years).
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ParticipantNot exactly what you asked as it applies to a unit rather than an individual, but Bolt Action gives a -1 hit roll for an attacker firing on a small unit (small in terms of numbers rather than actual size).
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ParticipantCool. What is the vehicle with the big magnet thing called?
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ParticipantOh, and in terms of demographics: everyone I game with is pale and male (although a few ladies do go to the club to play x-wing).
A few of the historical players have invited the ladies to join us in historical games, but they declined, and pushing it would just seem creepy.
Also, when I invited a black friend of mine to come to the club for a game, he said “Nah, that s*** is for old white dudes.”
(Note that although I am white, I am not that old – mid 30’s – so I dont know what he was trying to say about me đ)Those are brave men knocking at our door. Let's go kill them!
ParticipantClub: I attend a wargaming club maybe once a month or so. Most of the club members play 40k, Malifaux, Necromunda, age of sigmar and X-wing, all of which I very, very rarely play (or do not play at all), so I tend to play most of my games against the same group of historical gamers in the club.
Home Games: every now and then (2 or 3 times a year maybe) I play either at a friends house or have friend round to my place to game.
Tournaments: I am not a competitive gamer by any stretch of the imagination (for me it is all about hanging with friends, having a few beers and pushing troops around a beautiful table) but I have fallen in with the local Bolt Action crowd who have a few tournaments a year. I have played in 3 of the last 4 and thoroughly enjoyed them because, although the other players are competitive, they are not dicks about it: win, lose or draw, they have all been gracious about it.
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ParticipantHuh, thats cool. I really like Wyatts Hurricane and The Spoilers, so nice to know he was a wargamer.
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ParticipantBig heroes who can stand against hordes of minions.
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ParticipantLike everyone else says, I just do something else when i dont feel like painting.
Another thing I do that helps: I prefer making terrain to painting, so when I start a new project I do the terrain first. That way, I can immediately use the figures when I have enouggh painted up. For example, I recently started a WW2 European project. I have built and nearly finished painting 15 European buildings, 6 feet of low hedges, 6 feet of bocage, 6 feet of walls, fields, etc. Only now that all of this is complete am I beginning to paint the troops.Those are brave men knocking at our door. Let's go kill them!
ParticipantI’m getting a 4×8 mat, some grass tufts, a couple of tanks and bren carriers, some blitzkrieg German infantry and some British commandos.
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ParticipantLooks lovely
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ParticipantI am also so tempted by the Moongrunt stuff, but I’m trying to stick to 28mm only đ
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ParticipantA lot of my mates are getting the game, so im sure ill be playing it in the new year, but I managed to resist the temptation to get it myself.
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ParticipantYeah, thanks, you are confirming my concerns. Will go with the silicone caulk overlay.
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Cool ships Thomaston.Those are brave men knocking at our door. Let's go kill them!
ParticipantWhat about the collected editions of The Savage Sword od Conan? Prime fodder for Hyborian Age scenarios and a great gread.
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ParticipantI always thought GWs Lord of the Rings Strategy Battle game would be a good fit for Conan-esque wargaming because the heroes are powerful but not unstoppable.
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ParticipantAncients: I don’t play, but if I did I would go for an Indian army.
Napoleonics: I don’t play, but if I did I would go for skirmish gaming with a British Naval landing party.
WW2: I currently play Bolt Action with 28mm Japanese and am working on Chindits, after which I plan to do a platoon of Kings African Rifles. I actually do have a company of 1/72 wehrmacht, but they havent seen a battlefield in a decade at least.
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ParticipantThat is so cool. Simple and effective.
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ParticipantA few of my favourite things:
A beautiful table and figures – The visuals of wargaming beats the hell out of any other kind of game.
Good company – Playing with people that you get along with – I am not a competitive gamer at all, so I like to game with people who are up for a good laugh.
Beer – Makes everything better, of course.
Entertaining occurrences – Like in our one and only Congo game so far where the last casualty of a very bloody game was a British soldier who got eaten by a crocodile… and everyone at the table spontaneously let out a great cheer.
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ParticipantWow Mike, sorry for the spate of bad luck. Didn’t Churchill say, “If you’re going through hell, keep going.”
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ParticipantI guess that the mechanism will differ depending on the scale of warfare being modelled; for example, in Battlegroup, each tank has a set number of “shots” that the player keeps track of. Small arms ammo is not recorded. But, in a game like Shadow Wars: Armageddon, every type of weapon right down to a sidearm has an ammo rating. I’m a bit hazy on the details, but if I remember correctly, every time a 1 was rolled on a to hit, you would have to roll against the weapons ammo rating to determine if the weapon ran out of ammo.
I honestly prefer the second type of (semi-randomized)Â system because it is less predictable and requires less book keeping. Whether this system should apply to small arms or only tanks/artillery depends on the size of battle being played.
If you are including ammo rules in a game, I think that it is important to include interesting resupply rules; it could be something as simple as the resupply rules in Battlegroup (drive your resupply truck up to the tank to be resupplied and transfer the ammo), but I prefer something a bit more detailed, like the resupply rules in the FNG supplement “Beans and Bullets”: you determine what resupply vehicle is available (choppers, because it is ‘Nam), decide what items you need, and determine how much of your request is fulfilled. Again, I like this system because it is less predictable. You might run out of anti-tank weapons, and then your resupply mission fails to bring the additional LAWs that you requested, and then you are in trouble. Knowing this, you have to be a bit more careful about how trigger happy you are.
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ParticipantThree hours or so is my max: longer than that and I tend to get a terrible headache.
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ParticipantUnpainted miniatures on the table. Can’t stand it. To me, wargaming is a visual hobby. If you’re not going to make the game look good, you might as well play a boardgame. Of course, to each his own, and I will play against someone with unpainted miniatures without complaint or comment, but I really try and avoid it. Luckily, all of my regular opponents are of the same mind.
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ParticipantGuess I am in the minority, but I do occasionally buy GW miniatures.
40K – Never play 40K, occasionally play Shadow Wars: Armageddon, but the rules are rubbish and it is just an excuse to get the models and buildings on the table.
Fantasy/AOS – Never played and no interest in doing so, but I have small numbers of the miniatures that I use for Frostgrave.
Bloodbowl – I own three teams, which will see the table one day.
Dreadfleet – Bought the boxed set a few years ago because the ships are beautiful. I painted about half of them and lost interest, but intend to complete them one day.
However, most of the above – probably 95% – was bought second hand. Most of the remainder was actually bought by me for my wife for birthdays and Christmas – she has no interest in historical stuff, so prefers to buy me GW stuff.
I have been threatening to convert Bolt Action rules to 40K and bully some of my mates into playing just so that the toys can get to the table. Yes, the setting is juvenile, but there is something about the bleakness of it that appeals to me, and I really enjoy scratchbuilding gothic buildings.
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ParticipantI haven’t played an RPG in a few years. Played a lot of D&D, Star Wars d6 and Middle Earth Role Playing back in the day, particularly in high school when many a weekend would involve quests in Middle Earth that would start on a Friday afternoon and carry on until Sunday afternoon. I wouldn’t say that our pendulum swung too far in either direction: we inevitably saw a lot of combat and dice rolling, but also did a lot of in-character discussion with NPCs, etc.
Funny enough, we had friends over last night including one who I used to play D&D with, and she is keen to start playing again, as well as another friend who played in high school (didn’t know him at the time) who is also keen to play, so maybe we will be hacking our way through goblin-infested dungeons again soon.
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ParticipantYeah, it was a bit too easy, so all 8 survivors made it to the chopper. Sadly, there were only 2 open seats in the chopper đ
I made the mistake of giving each player 2 survivors to play – next time it will either be half the number of survivors, or twice the number of zombies.
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ParticipantYeah, Space 1889: Soldiers Companion has land battle rules.
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ParticipantThanks guys.
Mike, my wife also says I am mad.
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ParticipantThe Constellation of Vengars Sword, visible from the northern hemisphere, is commonly considered to be a good luck charm. Vengar himself was… (TBC)
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ParticipantI have also finished building a recovery and resupply vehicle based on the Basilisk chassis…
… and I am nearly done building an ork halftrack.
Planning on going back to the Aquila Lander sometime.
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ParticipantSo I haven’t been hanging around much, but I have been hobbying on. Thought I should post some pics of what I have been up to on the 40k front. First up, I finished painting my Baneblade and both Leman Russes.
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ParticipantI really enjoy scratchbuilding (much more than I enjoy painting), so I will often scratchbuild things even if the commercial version is available at a reasonable price. If I had the talent, I would even sculpt my own figures.
Of course, disposable income is finite, while hobby desires are infinite, so it certainly helps on the cash front.
Also, it is a great feeling when you plonk something down on the table and get positive comments about it. Almost as good is when people dont even realise a given item is scratchbuilt.
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ParticipantWargaming. When going to the club I tell my wife I am “going to the nerds.”
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ParticipantDo the photo comic reports with black and white pics – Savage Sword of Conan style đ
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ParticipantI’m making assumptions here but I believe I am one of only a few (if not the only) participant on this forum from Africa. Now, I am a white male, but where I live that puts me in the minority. However, my gaming group is still all pale males.
One of my black colleagues is a big video gamer, so I invited him to come past the club one night after work for a few beers and a game. His response: “Nah, that’s for old white dudes.”
All my other non-white friends are not interested at all in the hobby (but the same goes for almost all of my white friends).As for females: none of my female friends are interested at all in the miniatures side (except to mildly poke fun at an eccentric hobby), but a few did play D&D in the days of 3rd ed. My wife appreciates the art/craft side but nothing else.
I am aware of only 2 female wargamers in the whole country, and I have never played a game with a lady. The closest I have come was playing “zombie doll house” with my 28mm zombie stuff when my wife and I were babysitting a friends daughter.Those are brave men knocking at our door. Let's go kill them!
ParticipantNice. Like everyone else I really like the rooftop gardens.
I also like the theme. African post-colonial sci fi. Thats cool. I wonder if there are any robot cricket players available anywhere.Those are brave men knocking at our door. Let's go kill them!
ParticipantWow, a clean break from 6mm sci fi đ˛
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ParticipantBut do you buy corrugated plasticard, or do you just take a sheet of regular palsticard and score it with parallel lines? Very nice shacks, by the way – if I didn’t want a lot I would have said to hell with it and ordered, but with the number I want, it would cost me a fortune just for the shacks.
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ParticipantLooks very cool to me.
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ParticipantDepends on how excited I am about a new project, how many figures need to be painted, how many buildings and terrain items need to be built, and how much disposable income there is. It can take anything from a few months (like my samurai skirmish stuff) to years (like my zombies). Of course, I also have plenty of lads who have never fired a shot in anger. And no project is ever complete because there is always one more building to make, one more unit to paint, etc.
As an example, I have been wanting to do 6mm moderns for probably a year and a half, maybe 2 years. Will finally be placing my first figure order tomorrow and have started making my first ever 6mm building. I anticipate taking about 6 months to get everything game ready (staggering out purchases and mixing up the painting with 28mm Sudan, 28mm zombies, 40k stuff – I get burnt out if I paint one period/theme without a break).Those are brave men knocking at our door. Let's go kill them!
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