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Like I said, you can, I’m sure, find reasons not to like any of these if you try. Ogre, being one of the really early 1:285 scale sci fi minigames, is highly unlikely to yield any direct proxy miniatures because they don’t, and never did, look quite like any other line of miniatures. A “perfect fit” is not likely to happen for you under the circumstances you seem to require (no orders from the US, not too big or too small, not quite the right type or style of vehicle). I think Thaddeus’ suggestion of Plasmablast tanks and some modifications using parts from any of the above ranges, is going to be the likeliest choice for you. You should be prepared to do some modelling if you can’t find any of the above matching your exact specifications.
Alternately, as I suggested, you could talk to Vanguard about placing an order through them. They may have access to some preferential shipping rates since they stock from the USA and might combine orders where you might not be able to do so. I really think that you’ll find the Microworld line the most satisfactory, overall, given the level of closeness you want in theme and scaling.
Some other compatible ones for those who don’t want to buy from the USA:
Bradley Miniatures – Alternative Armies, UK-based. Note that their catalogue offers sizing.
Brigade Models, UK-based, make tons of tanks of all kinds, especially the Neo-Soviet range. Tracked tanks of all kinds including Superheavies. Might make a good “UK” or “Nihon” range if you find decent GEVs to go with. The small units are most likely to be compatible one-for-one with 1:285 scale figures like Ogre and GHQ.
Nuclear Shrimp Games. Based in Greece. Often out of stock in my experience but they look nice. No personal handling so I can’t speak to their being the same size as Ogre miniatures, but current 6mm games tend to scale a bit bigger against 1:285 scale so that might factor in.
Strato Minis Studio. Based in Poland. Resin cast, lots of tanks including transports and hovers but not a ton of tube artillery, just MLRS. Some of the bigger ones might make good “light” Ogres like Mark I and Mark II. They’re very responsive so you can ask about sizes.
Iliada Game Studio. Based in Turkey. Makes an MDF Hover Transport ship that would make a sweet GEV-MCP.
Vanguard Miniatures. UK-based and although I don’t know about the reciprocal shipping between the US and the UK, I order from him frequently and have never found the shipping cost intolerable. Has his own (superb) range of minis in both 3mm and 6mm (albeit with a Gothic sci fi feel which you might or might not like), but there are tons of tanks including artillery of all kinds, APCs, MBTs, Superheavy tanks, etc. Also stock American ranges like Microworld and Onslaught Miniatures. If it’s not in stock, contact the owner – he’s super responsive and I bet you could set up an order, even from US sources. First rate on service and quality.
HLS Models. UK-Based. Bought out the remnants of the Exodus Wars range, some of which still seems to be available. I’d be interested to know if they’re making more, but you’d have to find that out for yourself. I’m sure a polite email wouldn’t go awry.
Ground Zero Games. Already mentioned above, UK-based but a universal go-to, worldwide. Jon has also done custom casting runs for me more than once at very reasonable rates. He made me an entire battalion of hover-MBTs to match the one on the cover of Dirtside II, and threw in a whole bunch of extras, like artillery and a big mess of powered armor. First rate and the first stop for anyone looking for sci fi with a “hypermodern” aesthetic.
I’m sure there are plenty of reasons not to order from any or all of these – only you know for sure what the exact parameters of your ideal proxy miniatures will be. But at least they’re options!
Microworld Games has the most comprehensive line, including modular Cybertanks of very Ogre-like proportions. Their Superheavy tanks would make good Mk. IIs. Likewise, Plasmablast is a valuable resource, with very good proxies of all types. I can attest that both of these scale fairly comfortably with traditional Ogre-sized vehicles, being slightly smaller than modern “heroic” scale 6mm miniatures. Zandris IV also makes, or sued to make, some Ogrelike conventional units, including howitzers, but I can’t speak to their scaling from personal experience and don’t know for a fact if they’re still available.
I will second what Thaddeus said above – 3mm scale makes an excellent choice as well, but gather that you’re trying to fill the gaps in an existing 6mm collection, so I’ll just leave it at that.
I’ve had poor results actually adding textures to cloth, like sand and so forth, as it tends to flake off (or has when I did it). However, you can get some interesting mottled color effects with powdered dyes like RIT dusted over the surface while the cloth is wet, then make the textured areas as “scatter terrain” on bases of various sizes.
(The allies won WWI as well, but you wouldn’t know it from the mud blood and endless poetry approach).
As my dad said, “The only good thing to come out of World War I was that Joyce Kilmer didn’t. Spared the West a whole generation of bad poetry.”
Er, before anyone reminds me, I forgot quidditch.
Nothing the God of Biomechanics wouldn’t let you into heaven for.
My personal preference these days is to play somewhere close to real scale. So my buildings I scale a size bigger than the miniatures, because real urban buildings are way bigger than game terrain makes you think they are. So I like the way 6mm buildings look next to 3mm scale troops. It’s not for everyone though, so it’s a matter of preference.
I’ve been finding minis cast with 4.5mm bases work well – you want to make sure smaller figures have a lower center of gravity or they end up all over the place. Even on group bases they’re a pain to glue down, handle, etc.
By the way, Microworld stocked, and then immidately sold out of, their retro dieselpunk range. Less than 24 hours! Worth watching though – neatly SF3D-compatible vehicles seem to be the order of the day with that line, there – I got a few packs of their first releases just minutes before the sold out.
As odd as it’ll sound to say it, I find most 6mm lines work well for my 3mm armies! Most 3mm scale terrain is actually UNDER-scaled relative to the size of real buildings.
Nevertheless, if you’re OFFERING, what I would like to see is gothic-y terrain and ruins – wall fragments, buttresses, ruined temples and that kind of thing. I play a lot of Epic Armageddon at 3mm scale, and terrain to match would be nice.
I need a decent storage solution for 3mm.
Magnetic bases and surplus 40mm ammunition cases.
How many Highlanders? Well, in the end, there can be only one.
All seriousness aside, that seems pretty comprehensive to me. The only ones that come to my mind are the Atholl Highlanders, who I think postdate the Napoleonic wars and were mainly ceremonial anyway. But might be cool if you wanted to be a little flexible with your history?
If you’re in the UK, tinywargames is the place I think. If you’re in the USA, Cigar Box Battles makes superb mats.
And if I’m in OZ then a few sheets of old newspaper?
I don’t know about neoprene mats but one would imagine you could get them printed up custom, if you had a good image. I think Wargameprint, on wargamedownloads.com, should provide a good image, and then a print shop or service could apply it.
If Vistaprint does work in Austrialia, or if there’s an equivalent, that might be a good starting point? Printing on vinyl with a smooth finish should make pushing the ships around easier, and it’ll be plenty durable.
They look to me like they could be good Shutoral ground vehicles, superheavy tanks, early war stuff before the Hovers arrived, and some of the service vehicles used as “technicals” by the Mercenaries or the Free Colonies.
And yes, I prefer the earlier, poorly-transliterated form “Shutoral” over “Strahl.” I’m hard core.