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ParticipantVery nice.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantIt’s the famous Fish Tank Chinese bridge an aquarium accessory. Very popular with anyone doing the Tai Ping or Opium Wars or the Boxers. I bought it on ebay there are a fair few variants about. Paid under £10 I think.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantSometimes I’m a grey river with streaks of blue guy.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantI play the Plains Wars in 15mm using either Yellow Ribbon or The Men Who Would be Kings. I’m happy enough with it been accommodated on the General Horse and Musket board at the moment.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantIt’s a wargaming site where people talk about wargaming. Just what wargamers like.
As ever in life, the person at the top sets the tone and so we have a polite forum where people are helpful and considerate to each other. No politics, hysteria or clumsy shakedowns, it’s grand.
I had a look at the stats Mike posted it all seems to be heading in the right direction. I think the ability to directly link photos is a real asset considering the photobucket debacle.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantI see QRF have released some packs of Carlists in shell jackets and Totentaz a load of very nice buildings for the period. All good stuff.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantNice to see the old Donnington Goths getting an outing-great figures.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantJust saw that thanks.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantIt would be nice to see them Harry.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantI’d go for ‘Base them as I should – and only use 6-elements to a unit.’ and rationalise it as them being under strength as units often were.
Most rules make provision for that. You can the bring them up to strength at a leisurely pace while sternly lecturing anyone who queries it that not all units were of the same strength.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantI got cold just looking at it. Good stuff.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantNot any more Kyote, they sold them to Bloody Day 15mm on your side of the ocean. I’d happily buy from them but the postage is ruinous and if I ordered enough to make it worthwhile I’d be liable for additional charges at this end.
In fairness Geoff gave us good notice of the transfer so we could buy what we wanted. Of course I now want what I didn’t want then, the war gamer’s lament.
BTW I really liked your sub Roman stuff on LAF-nice work.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantYeah they have stood the test of time I think. I wish I had bought the Saxons too when I had the chance.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantIn terms of TPL you could check out the Samurai variant of its stable mate Lion Rampant which lists stats for mixed units of muskets and Yari (spears).
Also Brent Oman has an ECW variant of Field of Battle coming out as a pdf soon that might be of interest.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantHiya Brian.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantI guess I’m going to read your blog post more than once, first rate stuff and as ever, from you, it looks great.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantIt is a smock to protect you and your good clothes should you own any.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantWritten by Dan Mersey and published by Osprey Darryl, very affordable as these things go and covering the 17th and 18th centuries, more or less. They make for a fun game in my opinion.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantI got my game of Pikeman’s Lament based on the battle of Monongahela. Lots of fun and a historical outcome.
Here are a couple of pics.
The whole game is now up on my blog should anyone fancy a look.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantRead the books never played the game but that looks just grand.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantThanks for the report Norm, it’s 45 years since I put foot in Penrith. I might go up to next year’s show. Did you find time to visit the last King’s grave?
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantRed stripe in the grenadier tartan, that’s useful to know.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantYou’re welcome Norm. I have MM for French revolutionary wars and think they are very nice though I think you get more figure variation per pack in that range.
I’m stuck to think what else might match though I’ve been told the early Battle Honours stuff is quite smallish- especially the British, I have some BH Revolutionary French mixed in with my MM and Minifigs which seems to work OK.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantBM are at the large end of the scale and MM at the small end so I don’t think you would get a livable look even on separate units. Minifigs are tolerable with MM to my mind anyhow, if you like them.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantSorry, I don’t know the answer but if you want grenadiers too then look at these.
http://www.oldgloryminiatures.com/proddetail.asp?prod=FIW-14&cat=250
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantTry these
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantI like rules that produce games that tell a good story that’s historically plausible. So Piquet, Field of Battle for 1800-1900, other Piquet variants for earlier periods and Dan Mersey’s stuff. Honours of War impressed me too.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantThat famous spelling mistake!
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantVery nice work, they look great.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantYes, certainly worth a visit. I’m tempted to see Calleva Atrebatum as Cerdic’s (the other one) home patch.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantMy own view is that the best Dark Age warriors were very good indeed. Fitness levels were very high, likewise weapon skills and as for morale, well, read the poetry that set the standard expected. They were full timers and dedicated, sometimes literally, to their profession. But there were never that many of such people in any given population and they tended to be found in relatively small concentrations.
Now and then we get bigger assemblies of such elites and they always leave their mark.
As for peasants, it depends what you mean, free farmers mostly had a duty to fight and wanted to as it was part of their legal status. Unfree or semi free folk were not expected/allowed to bear arms in most cases.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantThere were raids and raids. Big raids put together by important Jarls and their immediate followers, rite of passage raids by groups of young men, slave raids, inter clan raids, I could go on but you get the point.
A good starting point is to see who was expected to fight. Even an elite raid would contain lesser warriors to do the donkey work.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantFalcon 15mm are a miss and I’d really like some Feudal Castings 14th Century Scots spearmen but they live in the US now and the postage is ruinous. Yxor 15mm League of Augsburg would be great to see again.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/Participant
Seemingly so, on my fifth attempt. Wonder what I did right? Great stuff.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/Participant“Could 15 blokes form a shieldwall or did the other people run round the side and throw things and abuse at them in a cruel and cavalier fashion?”
Pretty much what cost Magnus Bare Legs his life, give or take some numbers.
I’m in sympathy with the post above. Various peoples and cultures organised for violence in different ways, tactics and methods could vary as could the numbers, equipment and skills of warriors brought to the fray. I like rules that enable me to try and reflect that in a game.
Realism, of necessity, is in the eye of the beholder.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantWell you have to pick what suits you and how you think Dark Age warfare worked. I don’t think all units in a shield wall have the same motivation or skills so I don’t mind if they don’t all step off like a Guards brigade. The best troops are always in front, lesser souls behind and missilery, if any, where ever its most useful. You can expect the professionals to be more likely to obey orders than the part timers, that’s why you have been subsidising and pampering the professionals.
I like uncertainty in games others I know don’t.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantThere is a lot more to Dark Age warfare than shield walls. Even in that case a shield wall is not a single unit, its a line of many units of varying quality and type.
Whirlwind asked about Dark Age Skirmish rules not mass battle rules so I think Lion Rampant would do the trick. Had he asked about mass battle rules I’d have suggested Roache’s Ager Sanguinis or MacDowell’s Comitatus.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/15/06/2017 at 09:54 in reply to: Salvation and Catastrophe: The Greek-Turkish War of 1919-1922 #64807ParticipantGood for you Konstantinos. I don’t know nearly enough about that conflict although I’m aware of its fall out. Keep us posted as you progress.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantYou could try Lion Rampant it’s very flexible and you could fit most troop types into it. Your nobles will be heroic and your fanatics fierce, it gives a good game. Should you want to minimise on figures perhaps using larger ones instead I think that would work too. It’s a very affordable starting point.
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http://withob.blogspot.co.uk/ParticipantThe rules journey is an interesting thing. I started off with WRG rolling through various incarnations all the way to the 7th edition. By then I had WRG fatigue. I loved DBA, was bored by DBM and liked DBMM. Nowadays I play Piquet variants and find them much more satisfying. For quick games I like Lion Rampant. Quite a change around but I’m happy with it.
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