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  • #198088
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    I have decided to gather my Mordheim models and spares and start putting together a WFB 3rd edition mini army in 25mm.

    I don’t much like painting 25mm as it takes an age, but I figured if I aim for about 50 figures total for the force, then I should be able to get it all done in about a year at 1 model per week.
    Also I have been putting off BOYL as I feel like a bit of a fraud for doing 3rd edition in 10/12mm, and I do want to go to BOYL at some point, but just not with unofficial models in a teeny scale. etc.

    So, I am still playing Mordheim but when that is done (maybe before) I will rebase them so I can have some extra models.

    The plan is a unit of Helblitzen, a unit of Armbrustschutzen and a unit of Ersatzsolder with swords and shields.
    Then a general type, and a wizardy type (which may be a drunk priest of Taal).

    I have cobbled together the spares into the starts of a Helblitzen unit and have about 5 more on the way from a dude on FB:

    And I shall be incorporating these:

    #198089
    Avatar photoAndrew Beasley
    Participant

    BOYL ???

    #198090
    Avatar photoMike
    Keymaster

    Bring Out Your Lead. The definitive Oldhammer Event.

    https://www.bringoutyourlead.co.uk/

    #198109
    Avatar photoWouter Wolput
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    Not sure why you would feel like a fraud, mini hammer is definitely a thing and there are quite a few gamers playing in 10mm.

    Nevertheless, you will probably find more opponents if you play in 25mm.

    #198320
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    I dunno, I think if I was playing Warmaster then less so.
    Anyway, it is giving me rose flavoured good feelings assembling a ‘proper’ oldhammer force.

    #198336
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    So after buying just a few models and sorting out what I already had, I am not far off from having a tiny Stirland force.

    The final line up will be.

    15 Helblitzen
    10 Erzatsolder
    5 Woodsmen
    5 Armbrustschutzen

    1 drunk wizard/priest
    1 Captain.

    Once complete in probably about a year, I will expand the units to enbiggen them.

    To get to the current final plan I need.

    A guy to hold the banner for the Helblitzen.
    3 Erzatsolder with swords and shields
    2 Woodsmen
    1 Cool Armbrustschutzen as the main leader chap.

    So just 7 more models to get to my Oldhammer force.

    Woop, not too bad.
    40 ish figures with about 33 to paint, so maybe all done by Christmas?

    #198350
    Avatar photoAndrew Beasley
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    … maybe all done by Christmas?

    Folks – note no year given – typical gamer target as it allows for the normal project creep 🙂 🙂

    I do like the drunk wizard – the flagellant figures was a group I always wanted to field but then they went ‘silly’ in plastic and even worse in 40K. They still gave the odd nice one (the one in the pillory being #1) and some nice 3D ones are out now.

    #198358
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    Yeah I liked those early fleglers but as with so much of GW, the more modern it is the less I like its look.
    I have mentioned elsewhere, no doubt on a number of occasions that the setting has gone from pseudo-historical fantasy to high world of warcraft DnD fantasy, which for my money makes it as uninteresting as all the others.

    That model is a conversion from the original which was intended as a Morrite priest, hence the hourglass on the holy tome, but Taal seems more in keeping with Stirland, nit by much, but by a bit?
    So I may need to re-do the book. Again…

    #198837
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    Oh and I should almost certainly add these random people to the roster:

    #199138
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    So my plan to make a teeny 25mm Empire force for WFB is complete:

    885 points of brave Imperial lads.

    So yeah, that is them collected, now to paint them.

    But then this happened…

    884 points of evil undead…

    Is this how it starts?

    #199162
    Avatar photoWouter Wolput
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    😂 That got out of hand soon.

    Before you know you’re showing off your 2k+ armies.

    Do Skaven next 😉.

    #199163
    Avatar photoMike
    Keymaster

    Skaven?
    The rat men?
    Those are just old wives tales to scare the urchins, everyone knows they are not real.

    #199165
    Avatar photomark leslie
    Participant

    While the stout lads of the Sewer Watch are on the job what’s below stays below!

    Fossilizing nicely.

    #199167
    Avatar photoMike
    Keymaster

    Don’t fall in the stew.

    #199227
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    I have been doing some basing on the models I had painted from Mordheim to try and get it to match the surface I will be using for the 25mm WFB (Which is different to the surface for the 10mm WFB).
    Did not want lawn tennis/golf green smooth, so all a bit Stirlandy and uneven.

    Quite pleased with the match, the brown mud that is visible will match any terrain that I make.

    #199232
    Avatar photoIvan Sorensen
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    Great work 🙂

    I recognise some of the mens but not all of them. Are these all oldhammer minis or are you picking whatever strikes your fancy?

    #199233
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    They are all old sculpts*, some have been re-released by Wargames Foundry, but only some.
    Most are from ebay or FB trades, some are not cheap.
    BUT the feels are high.

    The undead however are whatever I can find that sort of looks the part, almost all are new models.

    *80’s and 90’s.

    #199283
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    First unit done.
    The undead are much quicker to paint as no uniforms, and in most cases, no clothes…
    Plus I had 3 of these already painted.

    Next will be some Empire Armbrustshutzen.

    #199325
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    Starting 25mm after years of just 10mm means there is much to buy/make/paint.

    Some terrain will be needed, so I have some linear obstacles made and ready to paint:

    My games will be about a small area of Stirland under attack from the rising undead of neighbouring Sylvania.

    #199361
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    Site update to include 10mm and 25mm WFB

    https://angelbarracks.co.uk/

    #199408
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    Working on a barricade for my Stirland lads for WFB 3rd edition.

    Almost done, 3 more to do after this one.

    #199434
    Avatar photoWouter Wolput
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    A bit of grime and all done, looks great!

    #199543
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    I have not played WFB with 25mm models in over 30 years.

     

    Today Samantha and I played a game of it.

    With us having used 10mm for WFB over the last 4 years and no 25mm WFB since the 90’s this was a blast from the past.

    The armies we used today were much smaller than those my mates and I used back in the day, the terrain was half done and crude, the table smaller than it should be, and virtually nothing painted, the options of terrain were very much lacking, I mean no stepped hills for starters!!

    But despite it looking like it did,  it is the beginning of 25mm WFB it was most fun.

    Having fewer units with fewer models meant each loss was more keenly felt.
    With my Empire not having artillery it was very different, my spells were a bit crappy in terms of game worthiness, but they did help create the narrative of why my wizard/priest/mage is a drunk!

    Also with fewer models we used some of the rules that we ignored as it would slow down bigger games.
    So that was a thing too.

     

    Empire won, mostly due to some terrible instability rolls from Samantha and her letting me get my heroes stuck into the fear causing units and preventing them from charging my less well lead troops.

    My drunk wizard/priest had mixed spells. But Strength of Combat and Hammerhand did make him a bit of a HTH machine…

    Also, she did lose her Liche early days with some very lucky dice rolls on my part.

    One very obvious difference was that within a turn we were in missile range of each other and within a few turns we have engaged in HTH.
    A lot less time for manoeuvres and being pounded by missile fire and all that.

    So yeah it was good fun.
    There is so much to do in terms of making it all look pretty, but it something to look forward to.

    As it was not a full game and a new experience, no plot, no scenario.
    And some hastily done crappy photos.
    Hopefully each new game will see less and less unpainted stuff.

    #199644
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    The first of my small Stirland units finished.

    (Though I have ordered more to boost the unit to ten)

    #199645
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    #199654
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    So, Townscape. I printed the bits for the Inn, but after some thought, I decided that as this is my first 25mm build in over 30 years to go easy on myself.

    I will instead attempt the cottage. I will stick it to some stiff material and then build up over it to create a texture.

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