Hmmm, 15 guys and every one of them died or ran away?  You broke it!

Just kidding man; what you have to remember is that there are not overall ‘Force Morale’ rules, so it is possible to play to total destruction.  But, in ‘normal’ fights, I’d say if you are on patrol and you take a casualty and a guy or two breaks, or maybe even just two casualties out of your seven man team, it’s probably time to head for the exits.  But that’s a decision you have to make as a player.  Same thing for the enemy: if you move up and quickly whack two or three bad guys, the rest are probably going to fall back (in real life).

Another thing is, if you’re having a lot of guys run off the map (6s on Shock Dice), you may need a bigger board.  Also, the first 6 is only a hunker, not fall back, if he’s already in cover, and something I do (since I’m usually playing on very small tables) is don’t always make them fall straight back towards the table edge.  If there is better cover in a different direction, have them fall back that way.  Other than that, quit rolling so many 6s!  I’d imagine that can’t last forever.

Your multi-based troops will work perfectly for 5Core Company Command.

V/R,
Jack

“Jack is a big proponent of role playing it a bit.”
Indeed I do.  What’s up man?  You’ve been dodging me ever since we got kicked out 😉

John – “Oh and I should cheat and not have every one run !!??”
You’re being a bit too literal and even a bit overly dramatic, ya old fruit loop 😉
Here’s what I’m saying: there’s a bad guy behind a rock, hunkered down, 4″ from the left base edge.  A couple inches above him is a building, and the building’s left-hand wall runs up and down, 1″ from the left base edge. Good guys are shooting at the bad guy from the right, and they get a ‘6’ result, which means the bad guy needs to fall back again.   You could have the bad guy fall back 4″ directly to the left, carrying him off the table, OR, you could have the bad guy fall back left a couple inches and up a couple inches, so that he still falls back, but instead of going off the map straight to left (9 o’clock), he falls back behind hard cover to left/up (11 o’clock) and remains on the table.

And like Ivan said, guys that ran off the table are eligible to dice to come back on, I just never do that as I figure the coward is either still running, or has found a way to be useful away from the gunfight (helping with casualties, being a messenger, holding rear security, carrying water or ammo).

And nothing wrong with three straight fire fights (something poetic about you rolling 3 6s 😉 ), just two forces that stood toe to toe and duked it out, and if everyone died or ran off, that’s probably what should have happened after three straight firefights.  A fierce fusillade, with both sides falling back to regroup and tend to casualties.  But rest assured that’s not going to happen very often.  Unless you’re using those dice that only have sixes on them 😉

V/R,
Jack

CHeers Jack. I thought your bad behaviour might rub off on me 😉

I’ve been in sci-fi land for a while, though I’m about to emerge.
Also doing some serious thinking on whether to continue with 10mm or 15mm for WW2. Part of that incidentally being your fault, you cretin.

Fundamentally, I prefer 15mm infantry but 10mm for tanks is the thing.

Well, “out of action” isn’t just kills, it’s just out of the fight.

In a campaign, you’ll check casualties to determine how they fared.

And a 6 on Shock doesn’t necessarily mean he’s running. If he’s in cover he’s just hunkering down (no move or shoot, penalty in close combat). It would only be on subsequent Shock 6s that he would actually fall back.

Apparently your advanced age is affecting your reading comprehension and I need to come up there and show you how it’s done! 😉

V/R,

Jack

Yeah man, you’re killing me!  But it’s fun, I finally get to poke back at you #%$&ers!

Why are all your guys on the road? You don’t use fireteam wedge on a road! Why is there a Sergeant and a machine gunner? Corporals run fireteams, and MGs don’t get pushed down to fireteam or squad level, just platoon! Where are the mortars??? You need mortars! And cowboy boots!

Man, this is great! And this why you and Rod don’t push batreps! 😉

Anyway, sorry, back on point: I understand your comment about the fight looking like the Wild West now, that’s how you’re setting it up!  Stop starting with all your guys in the open and in sight of each other. Starting the fight with the forces one move out of LOS is pretty good advice, and just dice off to see which side goes first.

Keep in mind that react fire is either only using Shock dice (Guard) or Kill dice (Snap), not both. And the forced fall back on a Shock 6 isn’t that far (4 or 6″, don’t recall off the top of my head). It looked like you had plenty of room for your guys to fall back without running off the table; your guys should never run off the table from the first Shock 6 they receive.

And as we discussed before, you need a lot more cover, trees, walls, bushes, and hooches to break up LOS so you can maneuver.

And I’ll actually be in OKC in a couple weeks, probably two nights, but I’m not sure how much time I’ll have.

V/R,

Jack

John – Cool set up, but like I said, I’d start with the two sides out of LOS, then roll to see who goes first, and that side actually has to move someone out into the open (as if they are unaware the bad guys are out there), then the fight starts.  I’ll see if I have time to link up with you, I’ll let you know as we get closer to the date.  And just bustin’ your chops about the tactics/organization/mortars 😉

Shaun – Yes Sir, you’re correct, though I will point out it also says:
“If a bailing figure moves within 3” of a table edge, roll the Shock die again immediately. On another Bail result, the figure flees the battle area. On a Flinch result, if the figure is not in cover, it likewise flees the battle area. If in cover on a 1, or rolling a 2­5, the figure recovers to a normal state.”

So the guys shouldn’t be running straight off the table on their first 6 Shock result.  I looked, and my 6″ distances were from 5Core Company Command and 5 Men at Kursk, and 5MAK has the results a little different (pinned/hunkered), which is how I play.

V/R,
Jack

Where are the helicopters? 

Seriously though, nice force and no shortage of mortars. 🙂