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Whilst debate is encouraged and disagreements allowed, assuming done so politely, there is no need for name calling, not sure who you are referring too (Kevin Kiley) but let us keep TWW a place free from hostility and name calling.
Reminder to everyone, if you don’t like the content of a users posts, ignore user may be the way forwards.
If their posts are sexist/racist/etc then let me know.
Am I going to get too upset about the details of uniform that appear on the troops I’m facing, frankly no
Wise, nor me, after all not everyone paints to the same standard and thus may not be able to present models to other peoples satisfaction.
But then I paint my models for my satisfaction not that of others, and likewise do not push any standards onto anyone else.After all, as I have oft said:
Am I going to get too upset about the details of uniform that appear on the troops I’m facing, frankly no
Wise, nor me, after all not everyone paints to the same standard and thus may not be able to present models to other peoples satisfaction. But then I paint my models for my satisfaction not that of others, and likewise do not push any standards onto anyone else.
I confess that my enthusiasm for 6mm Napoleonic Russians increased in leaps and bounds when I read that they often left their expensive jackets in the baggage train and fought in their great coats (on the grounds they were reissued with one of them every year anyway
)Many Napoleonic troops fought in greatcoats, regardless of nationality. I think that is well documented enough to meet everyone’s satisfaction 🙂
Obvious contrarian and passive aggressive old prat, who is taken far too seriously by some and not seriously enough by others.
Well, anyway, that’s how a carabinier’s cuirass looks like authentically after a good battle (Musée de l’Armée, Paris):
http://www.argad-bzh.fr/argad/en.html
https://www.anargader.net/Well, anyway, that’s how a carabinier’s cuirass looks like authentically after a good battle (Musée de l’Armée, Paris):
I’ve seen that in the Mussee de l’Armee. Makes you wince a bit.
Is there a rule for the morale effect of seeing one of your mates hit with a six pound cannonball?
Obvious contrarian and passive aggressive old prat, who is taken far too seriously by some and not seriously enough by others.
I think I’ll stick to the “Sharpe Rule” French in blue, British in red and to hell with the epaulettes.
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Bricole.
Indeed. Been spending too much time with the charcoal grill.
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So.
Yes it can be sometimes frustrating when a topic veers off course.
However this is a conversation, people say things and they comment on it and related things, then conversations evolve and wander off.
It happens to us all, when it happens to me I either try to get it back on track and or ignore the replies that I am not interested in.
If it goes off track in a way that is interesting but not really what I wanted to talk about I sometimes create a new topic to talk about that.What won’t happen here is the deletion of peoples comments that are not on topic.
Also what is not cool is the insulting of other people.
There have been a few anti Kevin Kiley comments, this is not cool, so please don’t.
Anyone.Let’s all be cool and try to engage meaningfully or not at all?
For random blurts and insults and such like there are other sites out there that would be glad of such content.It may be worth noting that primary function of the forum here is to discuss gaming and gaming related things, history is very clearly part of that, but the discussion of history itself is not the primary reason I created TWW.
Getting into the nitty gritty and minutiae of pure history may best on a specialist history site?
Especially if people can get passionate about such things.
Not contemporary, but why spoil it, I wonder if Pierre Benigni will survive the scourge of modern research- quite like this simple posing of a trompette of the 3e Chasseurs waiting for his officer to umm, get some information, relief or supplies I suspect…
Good to see the docked tails on horses, I do this to my own now having seen how many times it is depicted. Model makers haven’t picked up on how much less metal/ plastic they need!
And the impressive penmanship of Meisonnier:
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By no means ‘contemporary’, but I thought given the NYPL access I’d give this rather than one of the many discoveries of period artwork today.
Whatever the source, the hand written additions, and often errors, created by well meaning owners or benefactors, drives the problem further.
The dates are ‘nominal’ at best. Tsar Paul I died in 1801 (assassination) and his army wore different apparel. By 1802 Tsar Alexander I had tried to reverse his fathers plagarism of Prussian design, and made more ‘comfortable’ uniforms suitable for Russian soldiers.
That didn’t happen overnight, nor did it for two years or more. Despite Ospreys authors crowing the regulations about ‘Grenadiers wore shakos’ from 1803 and at Austerlitz, we know there were some that still wore mitres. And if they did, so did their other battalion of fusiliers (ie the second and third)!
Whilst we see cavalry in ostensibly ‘early’ uniforms, the foot not. French style shakos, with or without supporting leather ‘chevrons’; later 1809? 3 grenades badge for genadiers on a jaeger figure?; artillery nearly right, and didn’t the Russians foot wear their wrapped greatcoats over the right shoulder?
Those called uhlan that were more properly ‘Polish Light horse’ at this time etc. Was there any hussar regiment dressed in white pelisse? Memory tells me no, but I could be wrong without checking.
Just goes to show how deceptive, if not deliberate, interpretations are when choosing historical artwork; much like social media and mainstream ‘news’ has now ‘evolved’.
I’d just point out that in my brief review of artwork, there is significant removal of traceable data, publishers and artists signatures throughout the collection, for no apparent good reason it appears to me. See the original Bellangé signed print, and the cut off of the NYPL copies:
OK so it’s unimportant in the general hobby, just as it makes no matter playing games, given the other ‘mechanics’ to attempt any accuracy in model form. So back to my painting, and a bit of research.
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