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  • 01/08/2023 at 23:02 #189103
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    Yeah should look a lot more like a battle with proper big units.
    Shame I never did it in 6mm….

    Andrew Beasley wrote:

    Any plans for more ‘filler’ bases

    Plans no?
    Has it happened by accident?
    Yes!
    4 models failed on the print bed and I could not be bothered to re-do them, so another Stirland filler.

    Ideas?

    02/08/2023 at 09:42 #189106
    Avatar photoAndrew Beasley
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    Once saw a lizard man army with Aztec ruins scattered throughout – the odd ruined wall, fence or signpost may work.

    Other livestock (esp sheep) to keep up a theme.

    Going by the wiki [Fandom] grave sites, rugged rocks and trade wagons (possibly with the odd dwarf) may fit in with the countryside.

    Bags of flour looted from a windmill (as you have one made) also springs to mind – possibly with an irate Windy Miller…

    02/08/2023 at 14:58 #189125
    Avatar photoDarkest Star Games
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    Andrew Beasley wrote:

    the odd ruined wall, fence or signpost may work.

    Ooooo, I like this idea, Andrew.  I bet that’d look really good and add excellent thematic flavor to the units.  Could even do the same for the Dark Elves or whomever the opponents will be.

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    02/08/2023 at 15:24 #189127
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    Cheers, not so keen on terrain that can’t move being used as a unit filler, seems wrong that walls and fences follow the unit around the battlefield.
    I know many do this, but it does not work for me…

    Sorry.

    07/08/2023 at 22:17 #189322
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    Last week my 3d printer started failing prints and no matter what I have done to try and fix it, they keep failing.

    So I ordered some Kallistra and they have just arrived.

    I will be replacing the Talabheim artillery with new Stirland ones.

    Adding some crossbowmen as I don’t have any!!

    Replacing some early Stirjaeger with new ones and bulking up my Aversgard.

    08/08/2023 at 14:34 #189342
    Avatar photoAClashOfBlades
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    Great to see more additions to this army, any reason why your swapping out the Talabheim units for Stirland?

    08/08/2023 at 15:23 #189345
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
    Moderator

    I prefer the background to Stirland. (And the colours)

    10/08/2023 at 09:59 #189414
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    Cannons In Stirland?
    Bit posh innit?

    So yeah, this is possibly a very valid point.
    Can Stirland afford lots of cannons and the like, it is known for being the poorest province in the Empire.
    Initially I painted my artillery as Talabheim because of that reason, but..

    Yes, the people of Stirland are poor AF.
    But the nobles less so, and I did read that some of the boats of the Stir River Patrol have cannons on their decks.

    So I figured if the SRP boats have them, and given Wurtbad is the wine capital of the Empire and believe it or not has a semi decent tourist trade, I figured the capital will be able to afford a few.
    It has the same ‘wealth value’ as Wissenberg, Talabheim, Wolfenburg and other Imperial capitals.

    I am also toying with the idea that within Stirland the various landed nobles of significant wealth are each responsible for having and maintaining a certain number of cannon each.
    This will I suspect turn into a sort of competition in which the nobles trying to garner favour from Alberich Haupt-Anderssen.
    As such they invest what they have into making sure they have at least one very nice pretty artillery piece, this concentration of monies means of course the peasants and regular troops get less funding.

    This seems apt for the Empire and Stirland.

    So yeah, let Stirland have some big guns, I will get painting them soon…

    10/08/2023 at 15:05 #189421
    Avatar photoDarkest Star Games
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    That makes a lot of sense.  Each one is probably a little work of art, their crews probably dressed in finery.  I can imagine the nobles having a yearly competition predicated on some rules they come up with, mostly based on pageantry but with accuracy/ability in there towards the bottom of the criteria.  Might even have the side effect of making the crews a bit more able than most, but also the butt of jokes or derision from the commoners.  Cannoneer positions could be quite coveted, maybe even have a bit of a cottage industry related to patronage for placement.

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    10/08/2023 at 18:29 #189433
    Avatar photoAndrew Beasley
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    Just think about the poor relative – their cannon may not have wheels!

    I love the early gunpowder siege cannons that needed to be part buried before firing. Even the smaller ones look cute but neither are practical for most dynamic games though.

    Home made volley / organ / Helblaster guns anyone???

    11/08/2023 at 22:44 #189489
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    Angel Barracks wrote:

    Cheers, not so keen on terrain that can’t move being used as a unit filler, seems wrong that walls and fences follow the unit around the battlefield. I know many do this, but it does not work for me… Sorry.

    Regimental Bear:

    12/08/2023 at 10:41 #189497
    Avatar photoAClashOfBlades
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    Looks like that will be a fantastic addition to your unit, that bear is lovely.

    12/08/2023 at 12:12 #189501
    Avatar photoAndrew Beasley
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    Nice – good to keep the troops entertained 🙂

    You could add baggage trains and camp followers rather than the scenery.

    12/08/2023 at 12:18 #189502
    Avatar photoMike
    Keymaster

    Baggage Trains are a legit model actually, I need to make some…

    14/08/2023 at 08:59 #189534
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    Revised and biggered Aversgard unit.

    14/08/2023 at 17:09 #189561
    Avatar photoDarkest Star Games
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    Regimental bear… that’ll be a little hard to put on a staff and wave around.

    But really, that’s a good looking unit my dear sir.

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    15/08/2023 at 11:17 #189576
    Avatar photoAClashOfBlades
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    That unit is looking really good, the unit filler fits in seemlessly as well.

    19/08/2023 at 09:45 #189740
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    Thanks peeps.

    I decided to make new unit cards. They are bigger but they have more information on them and this will mean less looking up rules on the cheat sheets.

    Draft print of the new one.

    21/08/2023 at 16:40 #189827
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    Elector Count Alberich Haupt-Anderssen

    (Slightly converted Warmaster figure)

    22/08/2023 at 09:56 #189855
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    I have added more pictures of units and more background about them to The Empire Forces page.

    Go explore!!

    https://angelbarracks.co.uk/index.html

    25/08/2023 at 21:51 #189999
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    Re-biggified my Talabheim pike unit:

    25/08/2023 at 22:04 #190000
    Avatar photoAndrew Beasley
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    Looks nice and solid – not something I would want to run into in less than a Miragliano tank TBH.

    25/08/2023 at 22:19 #190001
    Avatar photoMike
    Keymaster

    Fair!!
    When you popping round for a cuppa?

     

     

    26/08/2023 at 18:38 #190038
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    Fair does.

    This will probably make a decent mess of them too:

    26/08/2023 at 21:08 #190039
    Avatar photoAndrew Beasley
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    Take it you got the DM 🙂

    It will really do damage to the guy with the ramrod!

    Any reason the crew are loose and not on the main base? Wound markers?

    26/08/2023 at 23:20 #190042
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    I did.
    TY.

    Crew can be targeted and killed whilst the cannon may survive.
    Also the cannon could misfire and explode but the crew may live.

    This allows situations in which you may have guns with missing crew and crew with an exploded gun, as such the spare crew can be re-deployed.

    28/08/2023 at 02:24 #190056
    Avatar photoAndrew Beasley
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    Makes sense – too long since I played mass troop games compared to skirmish 🙂

    You mentioned your printer was poorly – I just came across Mighty Minis [Warmaster link] who have some nice Empire figures if you get stuck for things to paint – the Hero A – Warpriest is absolutely great.

     

    07/09/2023 at 18:40 #190419
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    Cheers, I really can’t get on with the MiniRat sculpts…

    Anywho, finally finished the Kanone Battery.
    Proper photo to come.

    07/09/2023 at 20:03 #190420
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    07/09/2023 at 20:12 #190421
    Avatar photoAndrew Beasley
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    Love the use of the barrel as a support – you did say they where poor 🙂

    I take it the owner could afford the gunners or the full cannon and not both!

    Is that banner freehand? Very neat and tidy…

    Are they sat on 40x40mm bases (sorry lost track of the single figure size over the thread)?

    07/09/2023 at 20:17 #190422
    Avatar photoMike
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    Yeah Stirland are not the richest…  🙁

    There is much debate online as to if Stirland can even afford cannons, but my take on the lore allows it  😀

     

    The banner is a transfer.

    The bases are 30x40mm.

    08/09/2023 at 15:06 #190456
    Avatar photoDarkest Star Games
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    Using that barrel, that is greatness!  It makes for a wonderful nod to your setting background.

    "I saw this in a cartoon once, but I'm pretty sure I can do it..."

    09/09/2023 at 21:37 #190484
    Avatar photoAClashOfBlades
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    A lovely little battery an a great addition to the army.

    19/09/2023 at 07:15 #190748
    Avatar photo6mmwargaming
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    Amazing job on the painting and bases. I kinda missed this thread before, but are you using the different coloured base edges to help id which faction each unit is?

    My 6mm Wargaming site https://6mm.wargaming.info

    19/09/2023 at 09:38 #190753
    Avatar photoAngel Barracks
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    Thanks both.

    With the trays when I was trying to decide if to go goblin green, black, or flock and blend them into the table I had the notion of colour co-ordinating them with the uniforms.
    I have colour co-ordinated dice for each unit so maybe the movement trays can match the uniforms too.
    I tried it and decided to stick with it.

    😀

    There is no benefit game wise to it, my unit cards help me know what the stats are for each unit:

    It is purely for the visual look of it all.

    19/09/2023 at 10:02 #190759
    Avatar photoAndrew Beasley
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    Good call – flock trays for formations would not look as neat as these.

    For orcs etc they are fine but Empire troops need these 🙂

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